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Why are these forums so bad?

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Dessa DesPlains
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2012-07-01 01:03:17 UTC
These forums suck because of whiney children of all ages.
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#42 - 2012-07-01 01:18:40 UTC
Emperor Maurice wrote:
Bobo Cindekela wrote:
INB4AUTHENTICATOR111!


Tune in for my next thread, when I'll be giving my reasons for why CCP need to create an Eve Online authenticator key-ring to keep our accounts safe from the hackers.



Better idea:

Let's not, and say we did.

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.

Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#43 - 2012-07-01 01:21:58 UTC
Emperor Maurice wrote:
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
Perhaps, instead of creating a rant thread, you could have taken your ideas to the very obvious and clearly marked sticky thread on the front page of General discussion which was started for the express purpose of discussing the future of the ISD and these forums.

Just a thought.


By doing that, I would be complying to the current regime.


What are you, 15?

You complied to "the current regime," the instant you hit "I Agree" to the EULA whilst installing the client.

And I have seen a surprisingly large number of ::Official Good Poasters(TM):: on these forums.

You are not one of them, so stop giving yourself airs, kid.

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.

Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#44 - 2012-07-01 01:32:48 UTC
Kijo Rikki wrote:
Just remember what Alamo said, bare can B 4 tank, cat is for fite and tree durids is heel! Big smile



Poastin' in a troll/crap-thread!

Not-really-relevant-but-still-kinda-cool analogy to follow:

Gasoline (Guys, it's "petrol," OK?) is for washing parts -- WoW
Alcohol is for drinking -- SW: tOR
And nitromethane is for RACING! -- EVE, SW: G before the dark times...before the EmpireUgh

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.

Large Collidable Object
morons.
#45 - 2012-07-01 01:33:46 UTC
mea culpa
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#46 - 2012-07-01 01:34:11 UTC
the forums are terrible because you're terrible
Ruger Cynbal
The Marshall Group
#47 - 2012-07-01 01:38:48 UTC
Let me tell you about a pair of pants, who only wanted a friend.

Definitely not Jason Marshall.

Marconus Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#48 - 2012-07-01 02:47:18 UTC
I still lol at the idea of paying for pixel friends.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#49 - 2012-07-01 02:52:22 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Somehow you are a SA poster yet still make worse threads than the pubbies.

I bet you post in E/N a lot.

Aren't there some, er, parts of the SA forum which are less... amazing?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#50 - 2012-07-01 03:38:55 UTC
Obvious trollbait.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.

Constable Chang
#51 - 2012-07-01 03:48:10 UTC
Emperor Maurice wrote:
Victoria Sin wrote:
Posting in a goon-alt whine thread. Cool


I'm many things, but an alt I am not - especially a goon alt. Believe it or not, there are many SA posters who loathe the "goonfleet" culture - remember folks, the forum was there long before the corp was, and will be there long after the corp collapses.


I am sure there are many members of SA forums who play Eve and are not connected with Goons in Eve.

Something I find interesting about the way Goons post on these forums is that its the kind of posting which, if they did it in SA, they'd be... punished. Forum cancer, posting privileges revoked etc. I think that if Eve tightened its forums up to the standard of SA forums a lot of Goons would actually stop posting completely!

On the other hand, its just awesome that the Goons show MMO players what can be achieved by a group who have a connection outside of the MMO. Its like a 'higher order organism' and I like it in a kind of Nietzschean way.

I'd recommend Eve players who are not on SA forums and who feel that the quality of posting on the Eve forums is somewhat lacking have a look at this: SA Forum Rules.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2012-07-01 06:18:06 UTC
Emperor Maurice wrote:
I've been posting in many forums over the years: the Something Awful forums, the battle.net forums, MMORPG.com and all the other comment boards of IGN and massively.com - but Eve Online has one of the most disgusting forums on the internet. Let me tell you why:

- Arguments repeat themselves, over, and over again: buff Hulks, nerf hulks, buff titans, nerf titans, ban Mittani, free Mittani....
- The ISD team are extremely hostile, and threads are being locked like crazy - for only minor offences
- 99% of the time, forum bans apply to only a single character (I would know). For a game which encourages multi-box play, this is absolutely ludicrous.
- People like me, make threads complaining about other ****** threads - and end up getting even more threads locked.

This is how you fix the above issues:

- Loosen the ISDs' involvement in forum moderation
- Ban IPs, accounts - both in game and out of game
- Have a clear set of rules which are displayed in either a pop-up or bold menu link - not on a hidden wiki page

Note: If you lock this thread, these forums will burn and shrivel. Listen to my ideas, and then maybe you devs will have a better understanding of your own players' ideas - streamlining the feedback, input and development process.


Can't do much about the arguments or topics being created, as long as the topic conforms to forum rules. That's what happens when a wide variety of play styles is affected.

I don't think the ISD are hostile and locking a thread is necessary at times, especially when it doesn't pertain to forum rules, no matter if it is a 'Minor Offense'. There's a lot of 'Hostile' people constantly posting in these forums, looking to disrupt the forums and antagonize other players.

I like the idea of a forum ban being applied to all characters on a specific account. Definitely would help deter those repeat offenders from continuing to blatantly disregard the forum rules.

Posting a thread to complain about another thread isn't constructive at all. If the other thread or posted reply is offensive and doesn't abide by the forum rules, report it.

If anything, the moderators need to be more involved with these forums. If not, these forums will once again turn into a Mosh Pit of hate and spite.

The Forum Rules are clearly available to view with a link in the upper right corner of the screen.
Emperor Maurice
Karbon Alliance
#53 - 2012-07-01 07:37:17 UTC
Constable Chang wrote:
Emperor Maurice wrote:
Victoria Sin wrote:
Posting in a goon-alt whine thread. Cool


I'm many things, but an alt I am not - especially a goon alt. Believe it or not, there are many SA posters who loathe the "goonfleet" culture - remember folks, the forum was there long before the corp was, and will be there long after the corp collapses.


I am sure there are many members of SA forums who play Eve and are not connected with Goons in Eve.

Something I find interesting about the way Goons post on these forums is that its the kind of posting which, if they did it in SA, they'd be... punished. Forum cancer, posting privileges revoked etc. I think that if Eve tightened its forums up to the standard of SA forums a lot of Goons would actually stop posting completely!

On the other hand, its just awesome that the Goons show MMO players what can be achieved by a group who have a connection outside of the MMO. Its like a 'higher order organism' and I like it in a kind of Nietzschean way.

I'd recommend Eve players who are not on SA forums and who feel that the quality of posting on the Eve forums is somewhat lacking have a look at this: SA Forum Rules.


Less than 1/1000 of SA member play Eve, probably even less are part of Goonfleet. The "spaceship guild" clearly does not reflect the SA community as a whole - considering it more like this; a group of SA dudes decided to troll/harass/bully a bunch of people who don't post in the forums they do.
Kuehnelt
Devoid Privateering
#54 - 2012-07-01 09:47:39 UTC
Emperor Maurice wrote:
Arguments repeat themselves, over, and over again: buff Hulks, nerf hulks, buff titans, nerf titans, ban Mittani, free Mittani....


Nerf hulks? Buff Titans? Anything Mittani?

These are the arguments that repeat themselves ad occidium: AFK cloakers, remove local.
Rats
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2012-07-01 09:53:40 UTC
Because in these forums the fight for the soul of Eve has crystallised into a never ending he did, she did, nerf this ,nerf that, ban this, allow that, that will go on ad infinitum ....


Tal


I Fought the Law, and the Law Won... Talon Silverhawk

Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#56 - 2012-07-01 09:55:50 UTC
Typical prencleeve thread.

You'll never learn. *shakeshead*

Ms Kat
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#57 - 2012-07-01 09:58:44 UTC
The forums are a reflection of the game.

Be it the game itself or the attitudes of the people inside the game.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#58 - 2012-07-01 11:15:52 UTC
I think everything would calm down if we just got the old forums back lol

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2012-07-01 13:17:16 UTC
Emperor Maurice wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
been on battle.net forums, still think this place is worse.

sure thing buddy, sure thing...


You may laugh and ridicule the WoW players - but they have enthusasism and spirit for the game they love and play. Sure, there is moaning and complaining, but ideas are actually built upon - and people want one thing, a better game. Here, its all negative and firey.

You're mistaken. The negative, fiery, and unproductive comments happen in the Assembly Hall. The General Discussion forum (here) is MUCH more civil than ANY WoW forum I have EVER visited.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

InternetSpaceship
State War Academy
Caldari State
#60 - 2012-07-01 13:38:44 UTC
The ISD team is a group of player volunteers. Not just players, but the worst kind of players. The kind of players that live, eat, and breathe Eve. They take this game deadly seriously, and if they can't exert power over you in game for not taking it as seriously as they do, they can and will exert that power here. This is your problem.

Official Recruiter for GoonSwarm Corporation.

If you paid isk to get into GoonSwarm, you were probably scammed.  If you had the foresight to save the name of your scammer, let me know and I'll do what I can to help you.