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Qvar Dar'Zanar
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-06-30 17:47:58 UTC
Are amarr ships banned in this tournament? Because I haven't seen a single amarr ship this far in the tournament.
Fish Brain
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#2 - 2012-06-30 17:53:18 UTC
Amarr has 100% survival rate so far. One Punisher was fielded and lived.
Sakura Nihil
Faded Light
#3 - 2012-06-30 17:55:13 UTC
This is normal - Amarr are susceptible to neuting, TDing, and aren't optimal in other categories like sensor strength, speed, etc.

The result is that most setups tend to be Caldari or Minmatar, some Gallente, and then the rare Amarr-heavy team that banks on the fact people bias racial jammers to counter the other more common races. One of the final teams last year did it with great success.

The exceptions to this general rule are the Curse, Guardian, Bhaalgorn (albeit its Blood Raider).

Glory

Faded Light is recruiting
Loysy
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-07-01 18:39:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Loysy
Need big buff to amarr ship...
DPS and Fitting for balancing with big defect in PVP (harbiger need very big up to fitting)
Amarr ship is very sensitive to neut/speed/bad traking/tracking distrup...
And shield buffer is too large (subcap).
Where the balancing.
CCP please.
Zastrow
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-07-01 18:43:53 UTC
Fish Brain wrote:
Amarr has 100% survival rate so far. One Punisher was fielded and lived.


You must have missed the Oracle team yesterday
Qvar Dar'Zanar
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-07-01 18:48:44 UTC
Zastrow wrote:
Fish Brain wrote:
Amarr has 100% survival rate so far. One Punisher was fielded and lived.


You must have missed the Oracle team yesterday


Were they obliterated?
Zastrow
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-07-01 18:49:44 UTC
it wasn't pretty
Teinyhr
Ourumur
#8 - 2012-07-01 18:51:09 UTC
Zastrow wrote:
Fish Brain wrote:
Amarr has 100% survival rate so far. One Punisher was fielded and lived.


You must have missed the Oracle team yesterday


I believe it hadn't been fielded at the time that message was posted.
Qvar Dar'Zanar
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-07-01 18:53:24 UTC
Do you expect that more Amarr ships will be fielded in the 100 points phase of the tournament? Like... Amarr being better than others for fleet comps, but worse for gank comps.
Raziphan Rebular
Path of Dooppa
#10 - 2012-07-01 18:54:05 UTC
I personally found it pretty amusing that CVA fielded an all minmatar team, they did the same the previous years as well I think. I guess they don't much do the roleplay thing any more.
Linda Shadowborn
Dark Steel Industries
#11 - 2012-07-01 18:56:43 UTC
http://at.eve-ic.net/10/?view=statistics&tab=ships&sortby=race&range=all

several amarr ships actually.. what yes still the least used.
Takeshi Yamato
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-07-08 15:48:19 UTC
http://at.eve-ic.net/10/?view=statistics&tab=general

So why are Amarr ships not used more in this tournament? I remember they were quite popular in previous ones.
Ottersmacker
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
#13 - 2012-07-08 15:49:20 UTC
Takeshi Yamato wrote:
So why are Amarr ships not used more in this tournament? I remember they were quite popular in previous ones.

it is almost as if they were.. cursed

i just locked an open door.. strange, yet symbolically compelling.
Teinyhr
Ourumur
#14 - 2012-07-08 15:57:27 UTC
Takeshi Yamato wrote:
http://at.eve-ic.net/10/?view=statistics&tab=general

So why are Amarr ships not used more in this tournament? I remember they were quite popular in previous ones.


Well, Cyclone/Sleipnir teams seem to be pretty common. Minmatar T2 native resists make bringing Amarr ships an exercise in futility, especially with the limited amount of points in qualifiers. I'm thinking we'll see more of them in the last two weekends, like always.
Mfume Apocal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-07-09 02:38:43 UTC
Yeah, the big thing your comp has to counter (unless you have a meta advantage with spies, etc.) is Minmatar Rush. It's actually worse this year, because last year Sabres were the hotness and those have pretty **** resists vs. lasers, whereas now the Jaguar is fielded instead and it has awesome laser resists.
Faife
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#16 - 2012-07-09 04:24:20 UTC
sure is a lot of registered bhaalgorn flagships though.
Time Funnel
Just a side dish
Outspoken Alliance
#17 - 2012-07-09 04:30:18 UTC
Speaking as a theorycrafter there is one thing missing from the vast majority of Amarr ships. DPS.

Amarr has some fantastic ships but it has a supporting cast of some very slow very tanky low DPS ships.

Oh and damage types.
Cat Casidy
Percussive Diplomacy
Intergalactic Space Hobos
#18 - 2012-07-09 04:40:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Cat Casidy
We used two of them to great success, I don't know what you're talking about

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Cat Casidy
Percussive Diplomacy
Intergalactic Space Hobos
#19 - 2012-07-09 04:41:03 UTC
bah

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Jude Lloyd
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-07-09 04:48:41 UTC
We had two Vengys.

I'm back!
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