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Greenscreening Coming to EVE Online

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Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-06-29 04:22:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Poetic Stanziel
from http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.ca/2012/06/greenscreening-coming-to-eve-online.html

(image) http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hD0PXbo_SLk/T-0nIjAYvfI/AAAAAAAABnA/dZUeE_o0oGE/s320/greenscreen_character.jpg

I've played around with putting our characters onto different backgrounds, but the job of removing existing backgrounds can be a little onerous, especially with my middling Photoshop skills. I've wished, for awhile now, that we had the option to put our characters onto a solid background, green preferably.

Yesterday, I decided to use the power of Twitter to ask if it might be possible.

The answer came within the hour from Erlendur, CCP Karkur, and Torfi Frans Olafsson.

And not twenty-four hours later, CCP Karkur demoed a mock-up, the image above. So, I'm excited to think that this may become a reality in a patch or update in the near future.

(image) http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JaHTq41YnO8/T-0qw0WTIQI/AAAAAAAABnU/HYi1giI8XA8/s320/greenscreen_character_beach.jpg
[This took all of 4 minutes with the new green background. Only a few pixels to manually edit, rather than hundreds.]

I have middle of the road Photoshop skills. I would expect that those folks with great Photoshop skills will find greenscreening much more useful. It would probably ease the process of step-by-step animating their characters into scenes.

I know this is just a small example, and that it isn't related to internet spaceships, but continually impressed since September 2011: CCP's willingness to listen and respond to its players quickly and efficiently.

I'd like to thank Erlendur, CCP Karkur and Torfi for the positive response to my suggestion, and the quick turn around on something fleshed out. I look forward to seeing it in game. I look forward to seeing how the more graphically inclined utilize greenscreening.
Pipa Porto
#2 - 2012-06-29 04:26:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Pipa Porto
That's some pretty sweet turnaround.

Wonder how it's gonna affect that hats business.

That said, I shudder to think what kind of pictures this will lead to.

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Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-06-29 04:30:51 UTC
Can do this in photoshop in just a few seconds. Wouldn't help me any, but would be usefull for people who aren't that familliar with PS.

Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-06-29 04:35:28 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Can do this in photoshop in just a few seconds. Wouldn't help me any, but would be usefull for people who aren't that familliar with PS.
I find some of the gradient backgrounds don't remove cleanly, leaving artifacts at the character edges. Maybe I'm missing some extra option that allows Photoshop to go a step further. Either way, a solid "greenscreen" background should be beneficial to all, novice and pro.
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-06-29 04:46:31 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Can do this in photoshop in just a few seconds. Wouldn't help me any, but would be usefull for people who aren't that familliar with PS.
I find some of the gradient backgrounds don't remove cleanly, leaving artifacts at the character edges. Maybe I'm missing some extra option that allows Photoshop to go a step further. Either way, a solid "greenscreen" background should be beneficial to all, novice and pro.

Don't remove the background, remove the forground. It takes practice but once you get used to it you can cut very complex shapes from an imagine in PS.

Working in multiple layers I can have the background image laid, cut the forground character, drop it to the background layer, remove the original background layer. Once you have the hang of it you can do it all in PS in the same amount of time, and without any artifacts.

The green screen is cool though and would be great for a novice PS user.

It might be easier with paint shop.
Mfume Apocal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-06-29 04:55:58 UTC
Is that the beach background from Civ 5?
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-06-29 04:58:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Simetraz
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Can do this in photoshop in just a few seconds. Wouldn't help me any, but would be usefull for people who aren't that familliar with PS.
I find some of the gradient backgrounds don't remove cleanly, leaving artifacts at the character edges. Maybe I'm missing some extra option that allows Photoshop to go a step further. Either way, a solid "greenscreen" background should be beneficial to all, novice and pro.

Don't remove the background, remove the forground. It takes practice but once you get used to it you can cut very complex shapes from an imagine in PS.

Working in multiple layers I can have the background image laid, cut the forground character, drop it to the background layer, remove the original background layer. Once you have the hang of it you can do it all in PS in the same amount of time, and without any artifacts.

The green screen is cool though and would be great for a novice PS user.

It might be easier with paint shop.


You know instead of just being pathetic you could tell the OP to do something constructive like saving multi images with different lighting conditions so that is blends in better.

But no if that is the best you could come up with, not impressed.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#8 - 2012-06-29 06:50:48 UTC
We just need to make sure this is also implemented in the character viewer in-game. So that we can do nice group stuff with various characters.

/c

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Arcturus Archangel
Archbreed
#9 - 2012-06-29 06:55:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Arcturus Archangel
Why? For more personalized looks? I can just foresee many problems with this.

Edit: are you trying to do it for in-game or out of game picture customization?

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Elena Melkan
Magellanic Itg
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2012-06-29 06:58:14 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Can do this in photoshop in just a few seconds. Wouldn't help me any, but would be usefull for people who aren't that familliar with PS.
I find some of the gradient backgrounds don't remove cleanly, leaving artifacts at the character edges. Maybe I'm missing some extra option that allows Photoshop to go a step further. Either way, a solid "greenscreen" background should be beneficial to all, novice and pro.

You could try and use paths (Pen Tool) with Photoshop. Those are pretty easy and fast way to clip things off from the background, especially when EVE characters don't have much thin flying hair around them. Then just Refine Edge if needed and voilá!

But yeah, I guess greenscreen background would be useful. I mean it won't hurt anyone to add an extra background like that.
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-06-29 08:59:40 UTC
Can't you do that already somehow by messing with the game files and replacing the background images with a solid green background? This might be on the edge of EULA, but CCP allowed changing the videos on the CQ screen - I don't see how this could do any more harm.
Lukas Rox
Aideron Technologies
#12 - 2012-06-29 09:18:01 UTC
This is a very good idea. I've made a few wallpapers with my toons and have experienced the same problem you describe.

+1

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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-06-29 09:50:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Jake Warbird
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Can do this in photoshop in just a few seconds. Wouldn't help me any, but would be usefull for people who aren't that familliar with PS.
I find some of the gradient backgrounds don't remove cleanly, leaving artifacts at the character edges. Maybe I'm missing some extra option that allows Photoshop to go a step further. Either way, a solid "greenscreen" background should be beneficial to all, novice and pro.

Don't remove the background, remove the forground. It takes practice but once you get used to it you can cut very complex shapes from an imagine in PS.

Working in multiple layers I can have the background image laid, cut the forground character, drop it to the background layer, remove the original background layer. Once you have the hang of it you can do it all in PS in the same amount of time, and without any artifacts.

The green screen is cool though and would be great for a novice PS user.

It might be easier with paint shop.


Some Eve players don't use image editing software or CBA to jump through hoops because they are busy with stuff. Just wow,right? /sarcasm
edited for extra clarity : CBA-busy-stuff.

+1 OP. It would save us a lot of time.
Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#14 - 2012-06-29 09:57:51 UTC
Very nifty feature and design. I cant wait to see where some of the photochop gurus take this and how CCP uses it in the future. Theres a reason movies and video recording use blue and green screens in their work. Nifty work around by going the other way with the layering issues though, exactly what a creative mind would come up with.

Chribba wrote:
We just need to make sure this is also implemented in the character viewer in-game. So that we can do nice group stuff with various characters.

/c



Heh. Chribba wants veldspar gang bang pron.Twisted

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Pipa Porto
#15 - 2012-06-29 09:58:34 UTC
Chribba wrote:
We just need to make sure this is also implemented in the character viewer in-game. So that we can do nice group stuff with various characters.

/c


That's sick. I approve.

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CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#16 - 2012-06-29 10:01:15 UTC
I should add that this is just on my computer and has not been checked in or anything, or formally accepted "feature".
I really like the idea though (and CCP t0rfiFrans too), and I had some free time last night so I decided to try it out.

I hope we can add this, but it would never go in as a selectable background... you could never save your character with this ugly background, and it would be only available if you had some prefs flag set.

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Cryten Jones
Advantage Inc
#17 - 2012-06-29 10:13:49 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
I ....snip...

I hope we can add this, but it would never go in as a selectable background... you could never save your character with this ugly background, and it would be only available if you had some prefs flag set.



How about having the rendering server that does the hi detail portraits just generate a green screen one that can be downloaded from eve gate or account management?
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#18 - 2012-06-29 10:18:55 UTC
Well, I like the concept. More avatar fun. :)

My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.

VanDam
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-06-29 10:30:10 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Can do this in photoshop in just a few seconds. Wouldn't help me any, but would be usefull for people who aren't that familliar with PS.
I find some of the gradient backgrounds don't remove cleanly, leaving artifacts at the character edges. Maybe I'm missing some extra option that allows Photoshop to go a step further. Either way, a solid "greenscreen" background should be beneficial to all, novice and pro.

Don't remove the background, remove the forground. It takes practice but once you get used to it you can cut very complex shapes from an imagine in PS.

Working in multiple layers I can have the background image laid, cut the forground character, drop it to the background layer, remove the original background layer. Once you have the hang of it you can do it all in PS in the same amount of time, and without any artifacts.

The green screen is cool though and would be great for a novice PS user.

It might be easier with paint shop.


With a green screen you wouldn't have to do all that faffing around and it would save you some time.

Unbelievable.

CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#20 - 2012-06-29 12:16:54 UTC


I feel a little bit sorry for her for wearing this at a beach Sad

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