EVE General Discussion

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does being 4+ years old in EVE count as a 'vet'? If so, why am I not bitter?

Everything.

Bitter about any change they ask for because its not exactly perfect and how they imagined it.

eg: I demand hybrid fix!
Later when hybrids are fixed: WHAA MY VAGABOND GOT KILLED BY A DEMIOS, NERF HYBRIDS

they are bitter over realizing that they have become emotionally overinvested in a computer-game (that they have very little control about)

Alts, and the ISK diarrhea they generate. That's my problem, anyway. Nobody agrees with me though

Many of us are bitter because eve is perpetually failing to measure up to its potential. There have been many occasions over the years when listening to the players would have significantly improved the game, but ccp rarely listens.

I'm a bitter vet bitter about bitter vets.

Bittervets are typically found in 0.0 space, solo-roaming with their off-grid Tengu fleet booster, Falcon and Dramiel alts, with a supercarrier hotdrop on standby.

Many bitter vets are bitter because something that was overpowered which they used extensively got 'nerfed' at some point and they miss that feeling of dominance. Personally I think the word 'nerf' should be forcibly corrected with an electric cattle prod until ppl use the correct term 'balanced'. Unless a change actually does render something obsolete, then its nerfed (this rarely happens and is usually an indirect consequence of something else being changed).

The rest of us are the disenchanted masses that have watched CCP ignore fundamental flaws in EVE going un-addressed for years while CCP moves on to the next project in pursuit of long term vision at the expense of short-mid term problems that affect large numbers of people on a daily basis. Factional warfare for example launched in an satisfying state and has been almost entirely unchanged since it was launched in summer 2007, despite promised iteration at launch. The current situation with capital ship imbalance has been worsening since Dominion nearly 2 years ago and was in dire need of attention a full year ago. Both of these examples have gone without much needed attention because CCP instead chose to focus on other projects, many of which being controversial (PI implementation and the Dust link, CQ's, NeX) with few notable successes (arguably Incursions, although they too would benefit from iteration).

In short, people are generally bitter that CCP continually promise to address lingering issues and iterate on content, but then fail to do so leaving incomplete mechanics building up to a troubled game.