Intergalactic Summit

I can honestly say that trans has not helped this situation one bit from our side.

Do not listen to trans.

Although I am not a diplomat for LNA, I am a director in the executor corp and would gladly listen to your concerns.

I am certain your offer is greatly appreciated. Please contact either Emrys Ap'Morgravaine or Petrus directly and let them know of your offer. I suspect Petrus may already be in touch with you.

I am not a diplo and contracting Emrys and/or Petrus would ensure that all communication happen through the correct channels



I don't think Petrus ever intended to imply that he was threatening LNA with UK. Our joining FW and merging with DK has nothing to do with anything other than shift in direction of the alliance. The war is unfortunate but the membership stand behind our brothers in Damu'Khonde.

Inflammatory speech from either side should be avoided at this time until something is resolved, or not.

As mentioned, I'm no diplo nor am I an exec but leadership is pretty open about things and we would have likely been asked if this was even a consideration.

Technically, purple isn't blue. But that doesn't really matter.

With that attitude, I'll just withdraw my offer, and if you shoot at LNA while I'm in fleet with them, I'll shoot back at you. Sigh... there goes my poor sec status...

Like UK, I too must stand by my friends and allies, even if it means having to fire on other friends. Guess maybe you should also dec all corps and alliances friendly with LNA then?

Bloody hell really, as Kuan says if Bahamut and I can kiss and make up and have fun flying on the same side then anyone should be able too really. Can't we resolve this whole matter with some kind of formal single combat or duel rather than dragging the militia and interwoven tapestry of loyalties into this?

How about everyone just dials back the rhetoric a bit and gives it a chance to be resolved amicably.

(I can't quite believe I just said that, but hey)

Hehe, Us, ofc, we are just so huggable.

Also a small technicality that I should address; we have Amarrians within our ranks and count them as our brothers. We don't want all Amarrians to die, just the empress b-i-tch and all her loyal slavers. The rest can live, provided they don't own anyone individual, regardless of race, as a slave.

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@Jade, you are correct we need to resolve this amicably and dial back the rhetoric (btw, I did lol reading this coming from you), but perhaps a public forum is not the place.... All voices are important but let cooler heads prevail and let us see if we can figure out a solution to this. KPP / DK are both worthy fighting forces and militia infighting just makes it more difficult to fight the Amarr as a cohesive force.


Edit: As an aside, that is likely the shortest post I have ever read of yours on the forums.

LNA being bad at diplomacy, who would have thought........

Peace has been made. We have ended the war under agreement that LNA will no longer shoot friendly militia. Any LNA members that believe a D'K pilot is intentionally leaching loyalty points or taking loot (Not that I think this was going on before, but I've heard the accusation) can contact myself or any other D'K leadership (ideally with proof) to have it resolved.



I think that means the smacktalk can stop.

Glad to hear it!
Well done everyone for a sensible resolution.

I dunno anything about any kind of resolution, its news to me, but glad someone else took care of it! I've done the diplo thing over the years but am just burnt out on it. Too much on my plate atm, and too tired of senseless drama to care.

For what its worth, this whole thing was he-said she-said from the beginning. KPP claims that Rifterlings shot first, and those of us in the alliance back them up, cause, well, we're in an alliance. It's what we do.

Part of the frustration with the diplo matter is that no one in LNA (with a few exceptions like Trans who wasn't in communication with any other alliance leaders about his negotiations) really cared about the war.

To LNA, purple =/= blue, and we reserve the right to fire on those that threaten our corp directly or indirectly. We are very much a bunch of free spirits addicted to the kill, so inter-militia wardecs only serve to fuel our bloodlust. They just won't ever work as a motivator to threaten us.

Thus, attempts at serious diplomatic relations were naturally doomed to fail because LNA doesnt really have serious diplomats. We barely have any alliance structure at all, most could care less about organization and so it just doesnt happen. We're not a traditional alliance, just a group of friends that formed a tribe to kill all those that threaten our way of life, If someone wants to wardec us, we take it a face value and fight the war like any other..

From the beginning, I forwarded all of Petrus's mails and concerns straight to our CEO, who said "GREAT. LETS KILL THEM." and thats pretty much been the "official" LNA response since than. I think a lot of this is just people misunderstanding LNA and the fact that if we're fired upon we fire back - explosions are a lot more fun than trying to talk out a resolution when no one could agree on a straightforward accounting of what happened in the first place.

The idea that this is some big inter-militia beef or that this threatens the war, yadda, yadda, yadda is just silly. This will bleed one of the two parties involved of ships, and nothing else will be accomplished, so i'm glad its over. But honestly, it could have gone one forever and it really wouldn't have changed much. LNA pulls its weight in the war against the Amarr, we've always been loyal to the Minmatar cause (but that doesnt mean we're friends with all purples, there's a big difference) - and a rifterling war would not have slowed us down one bit. Hence, why no one initially bothered to address your call to action here at the intergalactic summit.

Once again, your mail was never ignored, I'm trying to explain that my days of personally managing diplomacy for my corp or Alliance are over, for the time being. I forwarded it to my CEO, like I said, if you didn't receive a response it was because my alliance leadership failed to respond.

I personally was fairly neutral about this war from the beginning. I heard conflicting stories about the events that initiated it, but in the end my loyalty is to my CEO, Bahamut420. He has been a hero to the Minmatar militia for ages now, his work to lead our people to victory is unquestioned (he was awarded the Heathen award, if you recall, for his fierce opposition to the Empire) and I trust Baha implicitly.

Thus, he has the final say in such matters. If he assesses the situation, finds Ka Pow Pow justified in taking the actions they did, and endorses the war against Damu'khonde, than it is not my place to question orders, its to defend him and my alliance mates. Trans was looking out for our corporate interests, as AUTOZ had friended the rifterlings, but AUTOZ also stands behind Baha and follows orders at the end of the day. If Baha decides we fight, we fight.

Once again, our loyalty is to the Minmatar cause as a whole - not to individuals within our militia that may threaten us. You may disagree about the circumstances, but understand LNA has never stated that we endorse openly firing upon other Minmatar loyalists without provocation. I sympathize with the fact that you felt you were victimized, but its hardly the first time two tribes have disagreed about a series of events and drawn knives on each other.

Thank you for your understanding, I'm glad the war is over and I look forward to fighting the Amarr alongside Rifterlings.