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Simulated PvP from console in captain’s quarters, now we have this living space outside of the ship. Add a game consol so we can play simulated Eve Pvp in our quarters.

Suggestion is to add simulated Pvp within the game, that is have a game playable within your quarters where you can participate in simulated battles with ships you can fly against other players (or nominated npcs). Thus you can learn if the skill/fits you have are adequate to battle other players. Way I see this being added is:

1. You have a display just like now but you can buy any item you can fly or equip for no cost. (you make no ISK also ) Just need some ID system to indicate you are in a simulated eve station. All normal rules for eve apply but no cost for simulated parts / ships
2. You have a number of systems you can form up in with normal concord rules for Sec 1.0 system. This system jumps to a Null Sec for PvP. (recommend one for non-capitals, one all ships. Possibly limit capital ships available to one or two a day per player.)
3. To get to this Pvp station is by a simulated jump clone that has no cool down. Doing this protects Real Eve [REve] implants and death function is not affected. Add auto medical death clone skill protect to again get around REve death functions. This clone will have no implants but as they will have no cost in this Pvp game in Eve you can try different setups.
4. The Null Sec system people can practice their setups for Gate camping etc… Find out if your BS with 8SB can take down those bubbles before sucking on vacuum.
5. Players can practice tactics with others in same Corp setting Red/Blue teams or even inter-alliance Pvp with no loss. You will be able to find out who has the best skill/setup with risking that 4-5B isk T3 setup with all officer mods. If you get party crashers during your training its all the better.
6. As we now have a new currency system in the game, give it some function beside looks *smiles* add the ability for a small cost to modify your skills so you can fly/equip normally unavailable stuff in this simulation of Eve Pvp while resting in your quarters drinking a cold drink.

To all you low sec plays just think of it this way, the care bears in empire can practice some Pvp first. So you may get more customers for the now braver empire players. I know Pvp is not even I just like to be in the 20 ship fleet finding the 5 ship fleet.

Groaned a bit right when I read this. Let's get this over with...



PvP without risk of any sort is a no-go for a good many people (as you'll soon find out). It's a principle thing.

More than that... if people could PvP in station against other players at no cost and no risk, what reason would they have to ACTUALLY undock and find "real PvP?"



Or you could... you know... actually practice with your corp against your corp. Oh wait... you want to use officer mods? Why not use them anyways? Oh? You don't want to risk losing them? Them's the breaks. There is a reason they are rare and expensive.



So basically pay RL cash to give yourself skills in a simulator that many people are going to be running because they don't want to risk themselves in actual combat.

I don't know where to begin with this one.



No... the actual problem with so many "carebears" is that they find the idea of risking their ship abhorrent.
What your idea does is give "carebears" a "sub-world" where they can say that they have "PvPed" without having actually risked anything.


Honestly... if you want to try some stuff out, get your corp to sign up to the test server. Not only can you "test stuff" but you'll also be helping DEVs find bugs (which I hear they need people to do).

No, because I consider one of the fundamental principles in the game is that a loss has a meaning, i.e. it hurts.

(although CCP seems to forget that, given how easy to make money and obtain resources has become in the last few years).

Yo dawg, I heard you like EVE, so we put EVE in your EVE so you can PvP while you shipspin.

How about you access SiSi from your CQ!

Yo dog, we heard you liked Eve, so we put Eve in your Eve so you could...

This. A replay system that would allow you to record a battle and then replay it and even adjust camera angles would be awesome and create some amazing YouTube videos. There have been great results from Valve doing this with their source engine.

Also, consider the following, being able to get saved recording from another pilot that was involved in the same battle, and put it up on the other screen, giving you the ability to look at a battle from three angles at once, and thus give you a slight bit of clarity into what could have gone right/wrong with an engagement from the standpoint of more than one pilot. This would make for some pretty crazy YouTube videos, but it could also be utilized in a "clinical" fashion to critique an incident more effectively and allow for future PvP training or actual PvP engagements to be tailored to include contingencies based on prior events.

This is the whole reason that this idea is made of fail. Because to a carebear, the idea of PvP, or losing a ship is completely reprehensible. Hence the reason they are carebears. They don't WANT to get a taste of PvP. They don't want to look at PvP. They don't want to hear about PvP. And the sad part is, they think that this game solely revolves around them.

That's actually the problem. Because it's "safe" it will eventually come to replace "casual PvP." Why is this? Well... why would you go out and try to find PvP and risk your actual ship when you can do the same thing in a simulation?

Because in SiSI...
- there is no functioning economy.
- you can't really make ISK.
- you don't REALLY buy anything.
- you can't REALLY lose anything.
- it is subject to resets and tinkering by GMs/DEVs.
- the gameplay and effects caused over there are divorced from what happens in TQ.

SiSi is, at it's heart, a test server for GMs/DEVs to play around with EVE code. The fact that you can also play with ships, fittings and tactics over there is a perk. Nothing more.