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The Dead of Insurance...
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#21 - 2011-10-07 19:18:21 UTC
Teamosil wrote:
Killing a less expensive ship with a poorly fitted more expensive ship just because you know the insurance will cover it is an exploit IMO. .


how are you even able to remember how to breathe

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Vanilla Twilight
Partido dos Trabalhadores
#22 - 2011-10-07 19:19:57 UTC
hmm... if insurance die maybe goons will cry :) I Like it
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#23 - 2011-10-07 19:21:45 UTC
removing insurance will surely hurt one of the richest alliances in the game instead of poor corps and alliances, yes

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#24 - 2011-10-07 19:22:06 UTC
who would have thought vanilla twilight hadn't thought his idea all the way through

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Vanilla Twilight
Partido dos Trabalhadores
#25 - 2011-10-07 19:26:36 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
removing insurance will surely hurt one of the richest alliances in the game instead of poor corps and alliances, yes


are u mad little bee ? =)
Jita Alt666
#26 - 2011-10-07 19:29:10 UTC
Milamara wrote:
Jita Alt666 wrote:
Would make Corp infiltration and awoxing way more fun. Imagine joining a small mission running corp and then systematically destroying their pve best fits - knowing they are getting no payouts.

I am getting a chubb just thinking about it Roll

Except that you didn't think this through. Even now insurance doesn't pay for faction/deadspace/officer mods so even now they do not get reimbursed for losing a 4 billion mission runner.


Except that you jumped to the conclusion I do it for profit. Killing 6 month old BS pilots who are in their first ever BS and ground their way through 3 hours a day of level 3 missions for 2 and a half months to fly the big flash toy is way way more satisfying. Remove insurance and each one of these will be a probable quit eve for ever scenario. The wailing and gnashing of teeth will be fantastic.

Also there are already literally hundreds of mission hub scanners looking for 2+bil loot pinatas - insurance alterations would have no effect on them at all.


Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#27 - 2011-10-07 19:32:32 UTC
Vanilla Twilight wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
removing insurance will surely hurt one of the richest alliances in the game instead of poor corps and alliances, yes


are u mad little bee ? =)

insurance is a problem for the little people

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Jita Alt666
#28 - 2011-10-07 19:35:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Jita Alt666
Vanilla Twilight wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
removing insurance will surely hurt one of the richest alliances in the game instead of poor corps and alliances, yes


are u mad little bee ? =)


The difference between pubbie and not pubbie is not the name of the alliance that one is a member of in the spaceship MMO Eve Online. It is the ability to know which meme fits which situation. Let me sum up for you using paraphrasing:

Weaselior: Meh scrubbing insurance won't hurt us it will hurt the little guys.

Vanilla Twilight Option a: haha the goon is mad. (yes I get to use a meme) Wrong. He is not mad he is indifferent.
Vanilla Twilight Option b: Insert random meme here in an attempt to illustrate how silly memes are. You have lost the cultural war
Teamosil
Good Time Family Band Solution
#29 - 2011-10-07 19:35:40 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
insurance is a problem for the little people


Then what is it you're crying about? You are overcome with sympathy for the plight of the hypothetical little suicide ganking corps?
Dramaticus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#30 - 2011-10-07 19:38:17 UTC
We are the 1%

The 'do-nothing' member of the GoonSwarm Economic Warfare Cabal

The edge is REALLY hard to see at times but it DOES exist and in this case we were looking at a situation where a new feature created for all of our customers was being virtually curbstomped by five of them
Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2011-10-07 19:38:25 UTC
Insurance system will start working after it is changed to player driven contract based business model with plenty of features.
Before that it could as well be removed from the game.

Get classic forum style - custom videos to captains quarters screen

Play with the best - die like the rest
Vanilla Twilight
Partido dos Trabalhadores
#32 - 2011-10-07 19:40:05 UTC
Dramaticus wrote:
We are the 1%


there is no goons
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#33 - 2011-10-07 19:43:03 UTC
Teamosil wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
insurance is a problem for the little people


Then what is it you're crying about? You are overcome with sympathy for the plight of the hypothetical little suicide ganking corps?


that's me peeing on you and your ideas, not crying, tears aren't yellow

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Teamosil
Good Time Family Band Solution
#34 - 2011-10-07 19:46:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Teamosil
Weaselior wrote:
that's me peeing on you and your ideas, not crying, tears aren't yellow


Small corps generally aren't blowing up less expensive ships with poorly fitted more expensive ships in hi sec, so you don't seem to be making much of a point... Maybe you didn't read my post all the way through? My argument was that in general insurance is fine as is. Maybe they need to close the loophole some seem to be exploiting, but that wouldn't affect small corps really. And it probably wouldn't really affect big corps either since they have plenty of money, but exploiting game mechanics like that just kind of breaks down the immersion of the game and whatnot even if the money doesn't matter to the person doing the exploiting.
Feligast
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2011-10-07 19:47:22 UTC
Removing insurance? Hell yes. Those mining barge pilots don't deserve it anyways.
Takamori Maruyama
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2011-10-07 19:48:16 UTC
err wtf, how cancelling insurance would hurt someone rich?
Its a guarantee so you don't have so much financial impact(i.e: people who care about this are people like me , poor), are you ******** or something?Hope you are just pulling the ******** troll card.
I don't want to believe .

Loud and clear...
Barakkus
#37 - 2011-10-07 19:49:43 UTC
I haven't bothered insuring any of my ships in a long time.

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#38 - 2011-10-07 19:50:40 UTC
Teamosil wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
that's me peeing on you and your ideas, not crying, tears aren't yellow


Small corps generally aren't blowing up less expensive ships with poorly fitted more expensive ships in hi sec, so you don't seem to be making much of a point... Maybe you didn't read my post all the way through? My argument was that in general insurance is fine as is. Maybe they need to close the loophole some seem to be exploiting, but that wouldn't affect small corps really. And it probably wouldn't really affect big corps either since they have plenty of money, but exploiting game mechanics like that just kind of breaks down the immersion of the game and whatnot even if the money doesn't matter to the person doing the exploiting.


oh right you are the moron who thought that winning a fight should be an exploit

you're plumbing new and exciting levels of pubbie retardation

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#39 - 2011-10-07 19:51:06 UTC
"it should be an exploit for the other guy to win"

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Teamosil
Good Time Family Band Solution
#40 - 2011-10-07 19:52:14 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
oh right you are the moron who thought that winning a fight should be an exploit


What the hell are you talking about?