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Effect of the -----Edit----- on Guidance System prices?
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Simon Page
Page Capital
#1 - 2012-06-22 20:41:11 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Tyrozan
As many of you may have read already, CCP has taken *all* of the assets and isk from the so-called-----Edit----- that participated in the FW manipulation that netted them trillions - some people have also told me that these same players were also stockpiling what was a very significant chunk of the total amount of Guidance Systems in-game. Should we be ready for Guidance Systems to skyrocket in the near future, now that there is not latent supply sitting on the sidelines waiting to be unloaded?
David Forge
GameOn Inc.
#2 - 2012-06-22 21:31:57 UTC
I think you will find, good sir, that you are mistaken.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#3 - 2012-06-22 21:40:45 UTC
Somebody stuck with zillions of overpriced guidance systems spotted!

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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#4 - 2012-06-22 21:57:44 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Somebody stuck with zillions of overpriced guidance systems spotted!


Guidance Systems are actually extremely underpriced based on the cost to make them, whether you make them from imported P2s or P1+P2s or whatever. They are merely so heavily stockpiled that they have only been very slow to rise in price.

This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.

fofofo
David Forge
GameOn Inc.
#5 - 2012-06-23 02:09:35 UTC
I was referring to the "CCP has taken *all* of the assets and isk from the so-called 'Jewbal'" bit. They haven't, have they?
im mrmessy
Woolloomooloo Sheep Dip
#6 - 2012-06-23 06:56:55 UTC
CCP didn't take 'all' of the assets. They took all of the rewards from everyone except one person who had 250Bil worth of datacores in the same hanger
Elric Darkmoor
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-06-23 07:20:39 UTC
im mrmessy wrote:
CCP didn't take 'all' of the assets. They took all of the rewards from everyone except one person who had 250Bil worth of datacores in the same hanger


Source Please.

Thanks
Anya Ohaya
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-06-23 10:34:38 UTC
Guidance systems aren't that much lower than Robotics these days, if prices get much higher it'll be profitable to make them.
forestwho
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-06-23 11:18:48 UTC  |  Edited by: forestwho
as soon as they go over over 35k isk pu i will dump my 40 mil guidance systems on the market Pirate back to 10k isk pu, just for lols and because i can Big smile
Zarere
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-06-23 11:23:34 UTC
Where's the souce that they got taken their assets?, i cant seem to find it.
Ravenclaw2kk
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-06-23 12:06:30 UTC
Zarere wrote:
Where's the souce that they got taken their assets?, i cant seem to find it.


There is no source. CCP are still trying to figure out what to do about it, if anything. We have had 1 Dev say that what they did was not an exploit and another insinuating that they will have some assets removed.

We won;t know what will happen until it actually happens, and then only if the people involved decide to announce it on the forums.
Azushee
Tax Evader's
#12 - 2012-06-23 12:30:52 UTC
Ravenclaw2kk wrote:
Zarere wrote:
Where's the souce that they got taken their assets?, i cant seem to find it.


There is no source. CCP are still trying to figure out what to do about it, if anything. We have had 1 Dev say that what they did was not an exploit and another insinuating that they will have some assets removed.

We won;t know what will happen until it actually happens, and then only if the people involved decide to announce it on the forums.


Just out of curiosity... What did they Jewball actually do? :)
Fiat Money
EVE Sky Corp
#13 - 2012-06-23 14:03:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Fiat Money
Ravenclaw2kk wrote:
Zarere wrote:
Where's the souce that they got taken their assets?, i cant seem to find it.


There is no source. CCP are still trying to figure out what to do about it, if anything. We have had 1 Dev say that what they did was not an exploit and another insinuating that they will have some assets removed.

We won;t know what will happen until it actually happens, and then only if the people involved decide to announce it on the forums.


UTSL ("use the source, Luke")
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1523114#post1523114

Update:
As long those guys don't have any acces to implants price will jump back the next days...
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#14 - 2012-06-23 18:01:30 UTC
Fiat Money wrote:
Ravenclaw2kk wrote:
Zarere wrote:
Where's the souce that they got taken their assets?, i cant seem to find it.


There is no source. CCP are still trying to figure out what to do about it, if anything. We have had 1 Dev say that what they did was not an exploit and another insinuating that they will have some assets removed.

We won;t know what will happen until it actually happens, and then only if the people involved decide to announce it on the forums.


UTSL ("use the source, Luke")
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1523114#post1523114

Update:
As long those guys don't have any acces to implants price will jump back the next days...


Implants have already jumped back as far as they're going to, even on, say, Monday, when we were still selling. We figure that mission bots were broken for a VERY long time by the unified inventory, after all, and only just started coming back.


Or did you really think that 10m per for a +3 was "natural"?

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fofofo
Fiat Money
EVE Sky Corp
#15 - 2012-06-23 19:29:39 UTC
corestwo wrote:

Implants have already jumped back as far as they're going to, even on, say, Monday, when we were still selling. We figure that mission bots were broken for a VERY long time by the unified inventory, after all, and only just started coming back.


Or did you really think that 10m per for a +3 was "natural"?


Looking at the 6 month time scale, my current estimate is 8m for +3, 18m for +4 and 100 for +5. That values have been roughly constant over last years with periodic fluctuations due to speculation.

Several items didn't even touch that value after the dip and have enough room to increase in price. Memory Augmentation - Standard is a good example for that.
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#16 - 2012-06-23 19:46:03 UTC
Fiat Money wrote:
corestwo wrote:

Implants have already jumped back as far as they're going to, even on, say, Monday, when we were still selling. We figure that mission bots were broken for a VERY long time by the unified inventory, after all, and only just started coming back.


Or did you really think that 10m per for a +3 was "natural"?


Looking at the 6 month time scale, my current estimate is 8m for +3, 18m for +4 and 100 for +5. That values have been roughly constant over last years with periodic fluctuations due to speculation.

Several items didn't even touch that value after the dip and have enough room to increase in price. Memory Augmentation - Standard is a good example for that.


"What I sell my wares at when I'm cycling implants" is not the same as "average price over the past six months" you know. I just took a look at the charts myself and with the exception of hte april/may spike (due to broken bots), the prices you listed are, without fail, peaks of cycles.

Now lets look at reality.

Int
+3: 8m
+4: 17.5m
+5: 100m

Mem
+3: 7.8m
+4: 17m
+5: 100m

Will
+3: 8.25m
+4: 17.5m
+5: 101m

Per
+3: 7.8m
+4: 17.5m
+5: 98.7m

Cha
+3: 7.8m
+4: 17.9m
+5: 100m

So as you can see, implants are doing quite well. In fact, cycles over the past six months would suggest that they will go down, as historically they are at or near their peaks! Of course, with players speculating following the removal of our assets, that may not be the case.

While I'll freely admit we dumped on them, hard, we did that to get the cash needed to keep things running and knew that they'd bounce back anyway, just as they have. We are, after all, responsible market manipulators.

Besides, given how often your name appeared in our market logs when we were dumping, you really don't have anything to complain about. You made a fortune off us, unless you panicked and dumped what we dumped to you. Big smile

This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.

fofofo
Castagar
On your Left you will See Mars
#17 - 2012-06-23 21:06:42 UTC
Jewbalocaust ???

I know it's very trendy and highly fashionable to hate Jews and Israel amongst the trendy young things .. The Hard Left has certainly done it's work on it's empty vessels. You're also known as 'Useful fuckin idiots'.

This however, is going way too far. You ought to be ashamed of saying that.

How about :

PoofoCaust
MuslimoCaust .. or
Fat Post SexOpoCaust ?????????? Or do those buttons not chime in with your preset fuckin belief system that's been served to you?

Surprised CCP hasn't clamped down on this sh*t but OFC they're 'trendy young things' too. Just have to follow the trends eh? Review your policies now or I'll collate all the vile anti-semitic crap that I've seen on the forums regarding Jews and truly go to town on exposing your forum rules.

Lock this CCP and make a public statement.
David Forge
GameOn Inc.
#18 - 2012-06-23 22:14:15 UTC
Not sure if troll or uninformed conservative...What?
Fiat Money
EVE Sky Corp
#19 - 2012-06-23 22:21:17 UTC
corestwo wrote:

Besides, given how often your name appeared in our market logs when we were dumping, you really don't have anything to complain about. You made a fortune off us, unless you panicked and dumped what we dumped to you. Big smile


Nothing to complain so far... Bear
Steelshine
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-06-24 08:07:35 UTC
Castagar wrote:
Jewbalocaust ???

I know it's very trendy and highly fashionable to hate Jews and Israel amongst the trendy young things .. The Hard Left has certainly done it's work on it's empty vessels. You're also known as 'Useful fuckin idiots'.

This however, is going way too far. You ought to be ashamed of saying that.

How about :

PoofoCaust
MuslimoCaust .. or
Fat Post SexOpoCaust ?????????? Or do those buttons not chime in with your preset fuckin belief system that's been served to you?



Lock this CCP and make a public statement.





but its so much better to hate on gays and muslims instead?

o7m8
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