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If you found the spawn rate of officer spawns, what would you do?
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Zagdul
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-06-23 13:15:44 UTC
Would you tell CCP?

Would you farm the officers?

Would you make as much isk off the situation as possible?

Would you avoid it because it's 'wrong' and lacks honor?

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Cpt Roghie
Chemical Invasion Co.
#2 - 2012-06-23 13:18:27 UTC
1. nope.
2. yes.
3. yes.
4. HAH! I'm playing EvE.

This could be fun.
snake pies
Dixon Cox Butte Preservation Society
#3 - 2012-06-23 13:18:58 UTC
it's up to them to change it periodically
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-06-23 13:19:46 UTC
Isn't it random?

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Jovan Geldon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-06-23 13:20:23 UTC
Don't be passive-agressive now, it doesn't become you
Dave stark
#6 - 2012-06-23 13:21:05 UTC
Zagdul wrote:
Would you tell CCP?

Would you farm the officers?

Would you make as much isk off the situation as possible?

Would you avoid it because it's 'wrong' and lacks honor?


they already know.

that's exactly what belt ratters are doing.

see above

see above
Lexmana
#7 - 2012-06-23 13:21:59 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Isn't it random?

Oooh. You found it. What are you gonna do?
Jimmy Gunsmythe
Sebiestor Tribe
#8 - 2012-06-23 13:22:06 UTC
Zagdul wrote:
Would you tell CCP?

Would you farm the officers?

Would you make as much isk off the situation as possible?

Would you avoid it because it's 'wrong' and lacks honor?


Rhetorical question at best. Spawns cannot be altered or dictated by a player or player's for undue gain or profit, they can only be farmed on the schedule of the spawn. Depending on the parameters of the spawn, I seriously doubt billions and billions will be made in a short amount of time.

John Hancock
Tenchi Sal
White Knights of Equestria
#9 - 2012-06-23 13:24:26 UTC
well i know what i wouldnt do. i wouldnt post it on the forums so ccp can start monitoring me.
Ghost Xray
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-06-23 14:05:44 UTC
Zagdul wrote:
Would you tell CCP?

Would you farm the officers?

Would you make as much isk off the situation as possible?

Would you avoid it because it's 'wrong' and lacks honor?


Depends on how I found it. Did some dev tell me? Or did I seek out every officer, log their times and locations across every system I found them, work some spreadsheet magic, etc etc etc. In other words, did I use :effort: or did I cheat my way there.

In both cases, no. I wouldn't write up a huge Eve-O post rubbing it in CCP's face, twitter CCP "frantically" or anything of the sort.

Maybe this is why I'll never been space rich Ugh I just don't get it.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-06-23 14:11:52 UTC
Lexmana wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Isn't it random?

Oooh. You found it. What are you gonna do?


Profit!

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Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-06-23 14:25:14 UTC
Zagdul wrote:
Would you tell CCP?

Would you farm the officers?

Would you make as much isk off the situation as possible?

Would you avoid it because it's 'wrong' and lacks honor?


You pay to play the game, not design it or imagine yourself Gm bughunter whatsoever.

There's a test server to correct bad stuff implementation, unfortunately the feedback you provide is worthless as your time spent there.

You're not botting, you're playing with in game tools to achieve whatever goal, it's up to CCP to adress their mistakes or bad implemented stuff.

You're not exploiting game mechanics because you know how and where they spawn, otherwise everyone exploits because rocks spawn every "xxx" at "xxx" place.

brb
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-06-23 14:29:12 UTC
Jimmy Gunsmythe wrote:
Zagdul wrote:
Would you tell CCP?

Would you farm the officers?

Would you make as much isk off the situation as possible?

Would you avoid it because it's 'wrong' and lacks honor?


Rhetorical question at best. Spawns cannot be altered or dictated by a player or player's for undue gain or profit, they can only be farmed on the schedule of the spawn. Depending on the parameters of the spawn, I seriously doubt billions and billions will be made in a short amount of time.



Dude open your eyes, it's already done since matusalem. How many officers did you killed?

Now I'd like to know how many people already killed several to dozens of times those etc. Fair well for them being able to get it and kill it, fair well also they can make billions because they outsmarted majority of players.

It's eve, it's harsh in every thing you do in. Some are better than others and it's the way it is.

brb
Nyreanya
Serenity Labs
#14 - 2012-06-23 15:10:21 UTC
How does knowing factions spawn, say, every 200th spawn, give you any advantage?

[/sarcasm]
Dave stark
#15 - 2012-06-23 15:14:41 UTC
Nyreanya wrote:
How does knowing factions spawn, say, every 200th spawn, give you any advantage?


it doesn't, the op was using it as an analogy about the goons faction warfare shenanigans earlier and failed as they made a comparison that works as well as putting a potato in an exhaust pipe.
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-06-23 15:20:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Lin-Young Borovskova
Dave stark wrote:
Nyreanya wrote:
How does knowing factions spawn, say, every 200th spawn, give you any advantage?


it doesn't, the op was using it as an analogy about the goons faction warfare shenanigans earlier and failed as they made a comparison that works as well as putting a potato in an exhaust pipe.


Even that stuff about FW only proves some players understand the game better than others, again it's not our job to provide content working properly.
We can participate on SISI tests and provide feedback but if CCP does not take it in account (herp derp?) and implement it in bad way or buggy/wrong it's our fault now and we should be penalised for it?

We're already penalised at the beginning.

brb
Hemmo Paskiainen
#17 - 2012-06-23 15:31:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Hemmo Paskiainen
Nyreanya wrote:
How does knowing factions spawn, say, every 200th spawn, give you any advantage?



cause there are 26 different faction spawns, 12 ish different hauler spawns, and 4 different racial officer spawn.

lets say you get 4 officers every 42 * 200 spawns = 8400 spawns or 1 every 2100 spawns (that is if the chance is equal).

Concider avarge natural belt cycling speed of spawns wehn not farmed, & when they are killed the moment they spawn. In last part you could do 3 ish spawns per belt per hour. Avarage system 15 belts = 45 spawns a hour. That means you need to do 46 hours of non stop npcing to get a offcier. Concidering that DT resets the spawns... You could get a officer half the days your npcíng, one day you get it or other day not. Depending on which cycle you hop in (36 hours?, 12 hours? ect). In theory you could get 2 a day in the same belt. The real question is, is spawning based on individual spawn or total amount spawns in a system...

NPC used to come in waves building up and when you got a top spawn, like 3 x 1,85 mil isk bs's there was a chance to get a special spawn afterwards, (chance of getting special spawn) * (1/10 ish could be a officer). This waves pattern is not something that was predicatble and is random by its selve. Dunno how it is now, hvnt ratted in ages.

just some ramblings

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#18 - 2012-06-23 15:35:01 UTC
I don't do PVE so I wouldn't do anything.
EvEa Deva
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-06-23 16:44:54 UTC
What if i could 1 shot a POS with a warp scram, and went into your space and wiped your **** out, would you defend me and say O shucks that CCP they should of tested them warp scrams EvEa was doing it for the good of the game... Roll



Didn't think so
Vicata Heth
Sensible People
Sigma Grindset
#20 - 2012-06-23 16:54:39 UTC
I'm pretty certain that special spawns are completely random upon the creation of a spawn.

You kill a spawn, 25 minutes later a new spawn is created. When that new spawn is created, I would assume some random function determines what that spawn will be. There isn't a way to game this system, because it's random. If CCP is smart then this is the way they're doing it. And I've yet to hear of people making hundreds of billions off officer spawns in a single day, so I have to assume that CCP is using the random formula.
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