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Need help with a harby fit
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Lucius Serjanus
Ood Mineral Resources Management
#1 - 2012-06-22 22:35:48 UTC
I'm just about to pick up a Harbinger to start level 3 missions, but I'm not quite sure what would be the a soild fit.
Here is my Idea after reading up on it.

Harby L3s
Lows
Adaptive nano Plating 2
Adaptive Nano plating 2
Cap power relay 1
Cap power relay 1
Heat Sink 2
Medium Armor Rep 2

Mids
10MN MWD 1
Cap recharger 1
Cap recharger 1
Tracking Computer 1

Highs
Focused Medium Pulse Laser 2 X 7

Rigs
Medium Auxiliary Nano pump 1
Medium Capacitor comtrol circuit 1
Medium Capacitor comtrol circuit 1

Any help or insights would be awesome!


also at what range should I switch from Scorch to Conflag?
Lili Lu
#2 - 2012-06-22 23:02:23 UTC
Go with beams. Easier to snipe at groups individually than to get close where all the groups will proximity activate on you.

Also you appear a little overcapped. Have you trained controlled burst to 4 ? And your main cap skills to at least 4 each? And are you training advanced weapons upgrades yet?

Lastly, you should fit specific resists instead of adaptives, unless the rats you have in mission are trully hitting you with all damage types.
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Horse Feathers
CAStabouts
#3 - 2012-06-22 23:04:58 UTC
Don't use a MWD, it kills your cap. AB is fine for most any mission.

I second specific resists, it makes your tank more efficient.

Use at least meta 4 cap rechargers/power relays, if you can't fit T2.

thhief ghabmoef
Flakey Foont
#4 - 2012-06-22 23:05:57 UTC
Definitively beams to start...
Alara IonStorm
#5 - 2012-06-22 23:07:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Lucius Serjanus wrote:
I'm just about to pick up a Harbinger to start level 3 missions, but I'm not quite sure what would be the a soild fit.
Here is my Idea after reading up on it.

Harby L3s
Lows
Adaptive nano Plating 2
Adaptive Nano plating 2
Cap power relay 1
Cap power relay 1
Heat Sink 2
Medium Armor Rep 2

Mids
10MN MWD 1
Cap recharger 1
Cap recharger 1
Tracking Computer 1

Highs
Focused Medium Pulse Laser 2 X 7

Rigs
Medium Auxiliary Nano pump 1
Medium Capacitor comtrol circuit 1
Medium Capacitor comtrol circuit 1

Any help or insights would be awesome!


also at what range should I switch from Scorch to Conflag?

Active hardeners are better then non active ones.

You are over capped and under gunned and should not use an MWD.

[Harbinger, New Setup 3]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
10MN Afterburner II

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
[empty high slot]

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hobgoblin II x5
Hobgoblin II x5


You don't need to be cap stable 100% to use the ship effectively. Conflag isn't very good, it runs out of Ammo faster then Imp Navy and it has worse tracking. Close range and worse tracking are not a combo you want. If you really want to use Conflag pack a web. Also with a web you are better with Hammerheads. As for range if it is above your optimal switch to longer range ammo.
Vilnius Zar
SDC Multi Ten
#6 - 2012-06-22 23:07:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Vilnius Zar
I use a named version of this: Works fine but it's not cap stable (not that this should be a problem, being cap stable is not a necessity).

[Harbinger, LVL 3 - Amarr Recharge]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

10MN Afterburner II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Focused Medium Beam Laser II, Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Beam Laser II, Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Beam Laser II, Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Beam Laser II, Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Beam Laser II, Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Beam Laser II, Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Beam Laser II, Multifrequency M
Medium Nosferatu II

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I


Hammerhead II x5
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#7 - 2012-06-22 23:08:41 UTC
Cookie cutter beams looks like this:


[Harbinger, L3 beams]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II

10MN Afterburner II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
[empty high slot]

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I

Cookie cutter pulses looks like this:

[Harbinger, L3]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II

10MN Afterburner II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
[empty high slot]

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I

Pulses are even cap stable (for what that's worth). Hardeners to suit.
Lucius Serjanus
Ood Mineral Resources Management
#8 - 2012-06-22 23:17:21 UTC
wow
awesome information

Thanks everyone!