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Tolokar

Perkone

Caldari State

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#21 - 2012-06-22 02:43:10 UTC

Freezehunter wrote:

Tolokar wrote:

Freezehunter wrote:

Tolokar wrote:

Freezehunter wrote:

This should be good.

If you are honest, OP, I hope you get this issue resolved.

If you are lying and you did bot, **** you.

Good luck!

o7, I wish players could serve as some form of jury duty in a way... I am not sure what else I can do to prove that I am not a botter. I hope that by welcoming surveillance onto my account whenever they see fit and checking all my transactions/eve mails will be enough. I really want to know though if running my AntiVirus (BitDefender) which I installed 3 weeks ago in 'Game Mode' or running EVE on a Compability mode can flag me for something??

Just a few quick questions that are relevant to my past experiences with false positives in cases like these, and to this issue...

1) If you use TS or a program like it, do you use the function that displays who is talking in an overlay inside a 3D game?
2) Do you use programs like Xfire, with the in game overlay active?
3) Did you install Evemon and other programs that monitor eve in Eve's game folder?
4) Do you use programs like FRAPS, that display an FPS meter in game?
5) Do you record your game?
6) Do you use a virtual keyboard add-on for your Antivirus?

All these things could lead to a false positive.

Remember, the more info you can give the GM about the stuff going on on your machine, the bigger the chance that they will figure out that hey, their detection system ****** up and gave a false positive, these things happen...

Hey really sorry for the delay, was in the shower... It is 98 degrees here in New Jersey and our A.C. just kicked the bucket. To answer the Q's:

1) I have T.S. but I have never messed with the settings, I do run it in admin mode though.
2) I have XFire and it is overlayed.
3) Yes to EVEMon no to any other program, I only use EVEMon & EVEFT.
4) No, I usually press that CTRL+F command for the FPS.
5) I have never really recorded, I did take images using the 'Prt Scr' key.
6) My anti-virus is only on Game Mode and runs on administrative mode. It will do some stuff randomly at times like start scanning/updating, and some other things that I kinda ignore so not too sure?

2 and/or 3 could be the problem.

If Evemon is installed in eve's game folder, it's possible that an update overwrote something in there because some of their files share names, and CCP's bot detector probably thought that was bad.

Also, overlay in Xfire can even cause VAC to get a false positive and ban you on Steam, so I wouldn't be surprised if that triggered CCP's bot detector.

I see, I see!! I just updated my petition with this info thank you so much!!! I feel so bad because the GM will wake up to like 8 new threads in the petition... I already apologized but I am trying to add as much data I can for him to square this away and get my accounts back online.

Freezehunter

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#22 - 2012-06-22 02:46:59 UTC | Edited by: Freezehunter

Heh, glad to help, I just get this really awesome feeling when someone resolves a problem with my help.

I used to work as tech support for an aeronautics company, and I am also heavy into unofficial gaming tech support and GM-like activities as a hobby, due to being a gamer for the past 16 years.

So yeah, keep us posted, I am really curious what actually caused the problem and if I nailed it. :P

Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom.

Tolokar

Perkone

Caldari State

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#23 - 2012-06-22 02:49:38 UTC

Freezehunter wrote:

Absolutely, I have this thread under my favorite so as soon as I get word I will go ahead and let you know. Since these two things could have caused the bot detector to go off I am sure they will unban the accounts and just monitor for the time being. A decision I am hoping will come true tomorrow so I can get back to my beloved game. Whatever happens though I will be sure to post!! Thanks again!

Monkey Steals The Peach 864
Grumpymunky Monkey Steals The Peach Likes received: 864	#24 - 2012-06-22 03:13:17 UTC 2 There's been a lot of this going around lately. Going afk with drones out = banned for macro use. Friend gives you some valuable items = banned for money laundering for RMT operations. Post with your monkey. Thread locked due to lack of pants.

Sane Industries Inc. 2,037
Rakshasa Taisab Sane Industries Inc. Likes received: 2,037	#25 - 2012-06-22 07:24:41 UTC 1 How often do these False Positives turn out to really be that? Very very rarely. Gas OP. Nyan

Tolokar

Perkone

Caldari State

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#26 - 2012-06-22 12:06:46 UTC

Rakshasa Taisab wrote:

How often do these False Positives turn out to really be that? Very very rarely.

Gas OP.

According to a lot of the posts I've found a lot of them turn out to be true and detects given off by false executions. It is why they always give people chances. They are computers not people, the bot detectors can be set off by just about anything that is foreign to the program.

Xhaiden Ora

Doomheim

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#27 - 2012-06-22 12:14:09 UTC

Xenuria wrote:

I have played hundreds of online games by dozens of different companies.
So far the ONLY game and associated company that has treated me with respect and moderated the community in a fair and legitimate way is CCP.

CCP is the only one that runs a forum that is legitmately a form of entertainment in its own right. Much like this thread will soon be. >.>

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Xenuria Likes received: 1,123	#28 - 2012-06-22 13:19:48 UTC 2 Rakshasa Taisab wrote: How often do these False Positives turn out to really be that? Very very rarely. Gas OP. False Positives are more common with VAC than they are with what CCP uses. TRUST me! CSM 12 Candidate

University of Caille Gallente Federation 3,423
ElQuirko University of Caille Gallente Federation Likes received: 3,423	#29 - 2012-06-22 13:21:17 UTC Xenuria wrote: False Positives are more common with VAC than they are with what CCP uses. TRUST me! Stop ragging on steam. Did you get VAC banned, by any chance? Dodixie > Hek

University of Caille Gallente Federation 182
Dark Assassin15 University of Caille Gallente Federation Likes received: 182	#30 - 2012-06-22 13:22:21 UTC Welcome to GD everyone, the topic is now Popcorn balls. Discuss! [img]http://www.invokemethod.com/repo/failedsig.png[/img]

Tolokar

Perkone

Caldari State

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#31 - 2012-06-22 13:23:38 UTC

ElQuirko wrote:

Xenuria wrote:

False Positives are more common with VAC than they are with what CCP uses. TRUST me!

Stop ragging on steam. Did you get VAC banned, by any chance?

Ragging or Raging? VAC is pretty bad, I've ever heard many stories and so can you about people's bot detectors going off from 3rd party software which aren't considered illegal. On WOW Some people have had their auctioneer flag them as well.

Lin-Young Borovskova

Doomheim

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#32 - 2012-06-22 14:12:25 UTC

@OP

If they made somehow a mistake they will come back on their position and you'll get everything back because everyting happening from now on to your pos or ships in it is a direct result of their mistake.

If you bot, than you deserve everything happening to you !!

Just stay calm with jerks calling you out on this thread and be patient. Be polite and let them do their job, it might take some time running through all that data to find out what stuff put you in that situation.
Expect at least 2 to 3 weeks to see this find some solution, send them a couple mails to see how their research is going on but don't post on GD, it's a waste of time and you're only feeding trolls plus, GM's will not comment private tickets on forums.

GL

brb

Tolokar

Perkone

Caldari State

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#33 - 2012-06-22 14:24:35 UTC

Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:

Thank you Lin, as long as my belongings can be returned due to all this then I am wiling to wait. Thanks!

Heinrich Rotwang

Spectre Fleet Corporation

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#34 - 2012-06-22 14:30:37 UTC

Xenuria wrote:

Linden Labs: Remember that time when the lindens indiscriminately deleted any sims that had anything to do with Anonymous, internet culture or had any remote references to memes? Yeah well they also perma-banned everybody that was in those sims at the time and deleted all items and props related to the stuff they wiped out. When people protested this, guess what? They got perma-banned. Not the baby furries or the age players, no sir.. They spend money so they never get banned.

.oO(Oh noes, that's the Woodbury/W-hat drama following me around)

Lin-Young Borovskova

Doomheim

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#35 - 2012-06-22 14:52:32 UTC

Tolokar wrote:

Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:

Thank you Lin, as long as my belongings can be returned due to all this then I am wiling to wait. Thanks!

Once everything cleared up and if you're clean, they will give you back everything you may loose/lost whatsoever. Those are people and not just running programs that probably led you to be on this situation, programs are mechanic GM's are not and they're more often than not pretty very good at what they do.

Be patient.

brb

The Scope Gallente Federation 70
Borachon The Scope Gallente Federation Likes received: 70	#36 - 2012-06-23 22:43:27 UTC 6 Weaselior wrote: sreegs please post the location of that pos in this thread Weaselior, CCP Sreegs will let you down, but GSRecon won't. His POS went offline this morning, and we just took his charon, viator, and iteron 5.

The Scope Gallente Federation 44
sbeaulieu The Scope Gallente Federation Likes received: 44	#37 - 2012-06-23 22:50:22 UTC 1 Borachon wrote: Weaselior wrote: sreegs please post the location of that pos in this thread Weaselior, CCP Sreegs will let you down, but GSRecon won't. His POS went offline this morning, and we just took his charon, viator, and iteron 5. Thanks for the ride in your Iteron mark 5.

dumpstersec 1
Ibanez Murderface dumpstersec Likes received: 1	#38 - 2012-06-23 22:52:11 UTC 1 Your Viator is going to be put to good use fueling towers and jump bridges! Aren't you excited!?

The Greater Goon 20
Leonard J Crabs The Greater Goon Likes received: 20	#39 - 2012-06-23 23:02:18 UTC 1 For a 1 billion ISK retainer my legal team will attempt to recover your assets that have been claimed by Goonswarm.

Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 0
Takamura Muggins Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic Likes received: 0	#40 - 2012-06-23 23:04:05 UTC I call dibs on the charon. I'll then trade it to someone for a obelisk to help plug ihub upgrades in for more of my GSOL duties.