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Goons 4x4ing through the Sandbox - Market Manipulation on a Grand Scale

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Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#441 - 2012-06-21 20:46:58 UTC
Ezra Tair wrote:
Well. If CCP does not remove the isk. I'm sure you can do some really good market manipulation and ruin the game as has been the goal for some time now, yes?



If CCP does remove the isk, I wonder how things will go.

That ISk is literally in the hands of everybody in Eve already.

True story.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
Pisov viet
Perkone
Caldari State
#442 - 2012-06-21 20:48:39 UTC
Aryth wrote:
Pisov viet wrote:
So, did you personally pushed a button for hundreds of implants and thousands of BPC? How long did it took you to redeem all that **** from the LP store?


G19 macro you hold down.

Fckin' unfair advantage, man.
Heimdallofasgard
Ministry of Furious Retribution
Fraternity.
#443 - 2012-06-21 20:49:25 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Heimdallofasgard wrote:
Hell did VV or Akita T even see this coming? VV was predicting another big peak in minerals in July but guess this throws a spanner in the works of that plan


Why should I have predicted a peak in July?
Where would I have posted that thing?

Or are you using my name to put people buy stock you purchased and remained the guy with the lit match in the hands?


What I say and think is officially posted on this thread and on the trading section of my website.


Link

May have been double bottoms, but, there was a post where you linked a graph and a lengthy explanation of it, with peaks in July, might be in amongst that threadnaught you linked o.0

and naw... the mins I had went off to manufacturing some stuff instead.
Lord Jita
Lord Jita's Big Gay Corp
#444 - 2012-06-21 20:53:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Lord Jita
woops wrong thread wtf
Jayrendo Karr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#445 - 2012-06-21 20:57:15 UTC
The antisemitism does need to stop though, I'm not one for political correctness normally but wow this is offensive.
pmchem
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#446 - 2012-06-21 20:57:21 UTC
Postin' itt because I'm part of the jewbal and reading about this in jabber has been amusing. They did good work. Very good work. This thread is all I expected it to be. Hi CCP!

I've also been too busy playing D3 to actually login and take advantage of this myself (when you are uberrich and also have a Titan, isk is no longer a motivation to login to Eve Online) .

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Aryth
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#447 - 2012-06-21 21:00:39 UTC
pmchem wrote:
Postin' itt because I'm part of the jewbal and reading about this in jabber has been amusing. They did good work. Very good work. This thread is all I expected it to be. Hi CCP!

I've also been too busy playing D3 to actually login and take advantage of this myself (when you are uberrich and also have a Titan, isk is no longer a motivation to login to Eve Online) .


For those non-goons reading this. Imagine a channel of 8, up to 10. That all knew about this, and only 5 did it. Because several of them were playing D3. Limited scope for sure.

Leader of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal.

Creator of Burn Jita

Vile Rat: You're the greatest sociopath that has ever played eve.
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#448 - 2012-06-21 21:01:31 UTC
pmchem wrote:
Postin' itt because I'm part of the jewbal and reading about this in jabber has been amusing. They did good work. Very good work. This thread is all I expected it to be. Hi CCP!

I've also been too busy playing D3 to actually login and take advantage of this myself (when you are uberrich and also have a Titan, isk is no longer a motivation to login to Eve Online) .

Since you don't login anyway and are obviously not biased, can I get your endorsement for FW CSM8?

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
Sheynan
Lighting the blight
#449 - 2012-06-21 21:04:46 UTC
Congratulations for the money Smile

Anyway to clarify something this was after all just affecting the financial upgrade of FW.

No systems were won or lost easier due to this.
(So stop gloating about that Goons)
saltrock0000
State War Academy
Caldari State
#450 - 2012-06-21 21:05:27 UTC
Well plaid goons......... well played.


On a side note, CCP nurfed incursions the ISK fountain but handed goons trillibillions trolololol


If i ever make a computer game, goons arnt invited to play :)

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Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#451 - 2012-06-21 21:06:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Darth Gustav
Sheynan wrote:
Congratulations for the money Smile

Anyway to clarify something this was after all just affecting the financial upgrade of FW.

No systems were won or lost easier due to this.
(So stop gloating about that Goons)

This post made me think of a very good question for Aryth & crew:

Did this skyrocket your standings as a by-product?

Thanks in advance for the tip, either way.
saltrock0000 wrote:
Well plaid goons......... well played.


On a side note, CCP nurfed incursions the ISK fountain but handed goons trillibillions trolololol


If i ever make a computer game, goons arnt invited to play :)

Why not? Apparently it's a good business model...free advertising and rich clients!

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
BiaXia
Perkone
Caldari State
#452 - 2012-06-21 21:07:10 UTC
Jayrendo Karr wrote:
The antisemitism does need to stop though, I'm not one for political correctness normally but wow this is offensive.


I wouldn't really call it anti-Semitic, he merely used the word Jew in a context that they are a group of jews. For all you know the whole group responsible for this caper could indeed all be Sons of Abraham and are expressing pride in their heritage.

You're the one putting negative connotations around the Jewish faith.
Cynthia Nezmor
Nezmor's Golden Griffins
#453 - 2012-06-21 21:07:19 UTC
Well played. I have but one question: why didn't you make Caldari alts for even more profit?

Quote:
On a lark one of us went one morning and fully upgraded all 13 Amarr systems to level 5. The next day this was repeated along with the 2 systems they won from the day before, allowing the Amarr faction to finally hit T2.
Phoenixx
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#454 - 2012-06-21 21:07:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Phoenixx
Funny stuff; you really exploited the sh!t out of CCP this time. It most certainty should be mitigated in some manner though; either through ISK penalties or removal of some items.

Claiming that you shouldn't be penalized for exploiting a design flaw is a bit like saying you shouldn't go to jail for robbing a bank that was really easy to rob (obviously it is not the exact same thing, so don't get all pissy about it; I'm just using it as an example).

Finding a way to easily to rob banks, such as walking through a backdoor no one else apparently can find, that allows me to just stroll in and grab heaps of cash, leave and then rinse and repeat all over town - is illegal.

Informing said town's police force that I am committing robbery at these banks, telling them how to fix it, and continuing to rob the banks - is still illegal. The police won't let me keep the cash because I'm claiming I'm a good guy for telling them of the poor bank security.

Here, Goons are funnily enough trying to do the same thing. They exploited the sh!t out of a game flaw design - that amounts to robbery - and now they want to claim they should keep the plunder because they told CCP about it?

Give me a break.


Tallian Saotome wrote:

And if they only target Goons, then they have to deal with the PR nightmare of looking like they have a vendetta against a group of players.


CCP doesn't have to, and won't, "target" Goons. They will target the individual players who directly exploited the design flaw. That said, you're essentially arguing that there will be a PR nightmare because people who essentially cheated are being penalized? That doesn't make sense.
Dave stark
#455 - 2012-06-21 21:07:49 UTC
saltrock0000 wrote:
Well plaid goons......... well played.


On a side note, CCP nurfed incursions the ISK fountain but handed goons trillibillions trolololol


If i ever make a computer game, goons arnt invited to play :)

why not? they're clearly the most thorough testers known to man.
stoicfaux
#456 - 2012-06-21 21:08:17 UTC
Impressive. +1 for teh Goons.

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Aryth
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#457 - 2012-06-21 21:08:24 UTC
Darth Gustav wrote:
Sheynan wrote:
Congratulations for the money Smile

Anyway to clarify something this was after all just affecting the financial upgrade of FW.

No systems were won or lost easier due to this.
(So stop gloating about that Goons)

This post made me think of a very good question for Aryth & crew:

Did this skyrocket your standings as a by-product?

Thanks in advance for the tip, either way.


No, it doesn't impact your standings at all.

Leader of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal.

Creator of Burn Jita

Vile Rat: You're the greatest sociopath that has ever played eve.
Kilylol
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#458 - 2012-06-21 21:08:55 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:

Posting in a thread where goons helped me make 8.7b isk last saturday for 4 hours play.

(they really ruined my sandbox)



Ya rely got dem gewns.
Aryth
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#459 - 2012-06-21 21:09:24 UTC
Cynthia Nezmor wrote:
Well played. I have but one question: why didn't you make Caldari alts for even more profit?

Quote:
On a lark one of us went one morning and fully upgraded all 13 Amarr systems to level 5. The next day this was repeated along with the 2 systems they won from the day before, allowing the Amarr faction to finally hit T2.


I never said we didn't. Hence the CNR's on the market.

Leader of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal.

Creator of Burn Jita

Vile Rat: You're the greatest sociopath that has ever played eve.
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#460 - 2012-06-21 21:09:35 UTC
Cynthia Nezmor wrote:
Well played. I have but one question: why didn't you make Caldari alts for even more profit?

Quote:
On a lark one of us went one morning and fully upgraded all 13 Amarr systems to level 5. The next day this was repeated along with the 2 systems they won from the day before, allowing the Amarr faction to finally hit T2.


Minmatar paid 1/2 base price due to already having tier 4, plus it gave an advantageous multiplier - you get 5% extra LP per level above tier 2 for kills.

That said...have you LOOKED at caldari navy ravens and scorpions lately?

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