EVE General Discussion

Some of you null sec zealots seem to forget that the whole problem is partly the fault of their own alliances and their somtime complete hypocrit views on the game

They ve build sandcastles and now refuse any change that will even remotely have a chance ro disrupt their pretty sandcastles so nothing chages and people get bored ,
A majority of those alliances. Don t even consider any other form of industry beyond their moongoo because it takes effort and dedication by example
And they treat anybody who is a outsider as another possible killboardtrophee
Even renters as usually treated as shooting practise

And then They are suprised hardly anybody wants to go to nullsec anymore

So it's our own fault L4s are too profitable, so a majority of nullsec denizens have a L4 alt?

I see.


I'm sure it's not a case of the players deciding that their time is better spent running L4s, then purchasing stuff in Jita and having it hauled out, than run sanctums and lose/replace ships, and end up with less isk at the end of the month as a result.

No sirree.

If you negotiate blue standings with someone, they won't shoot you. If you don't, you're most likely hostile.

You know, this is a PVP game, right?

You reminded me of a thing I was annoyed about but forgot: why are there no research agents in 0.0?

Bacon!

This looks like an exciting thread :)

So its basically an argument about why hisec dwellers don't want to go to 0.0 is it ?

Oh dear. The big problem with that argument is that it really doesn't appreciate that nullsec itself is very unattractive to many players. Lots of people don't like the idea of being shouted at by idiots on teamspeak, being forced into CTA's, being told where they can rat, where they can mine, when they have to logon and how high they have to jump.

The issue really is that 0.0 has become a virtual uniform monoculture with one structural format and only one mode of play. There is far more variety in lowsec (or even hisec) than nullsec can offer. I wouldn't lay the blame entirely with the players though, I think CCP have failed to promote gameplay variety in nullsec for half a decade now. As long as there is only one optimal path to success and wealth in nullsec people are going to choose that path, and where the path leads is mega alliances in perma naps sucking moon-minerals out of static resources while lording it over the peasants.

Once upon a time in Eve you could plan to go to 0.0 to kick over the established order, to destroy an alliance, to sieze power or liberate a benighted region with your heroic comrades at arms beside you.

These days the only people that go to 0.0 are joiners and followers who dig the workaday pattern of the cubicle-monkey and the wage slave.

Its perhaps Eve's deepest and most enduring irony that the genuine rebels and non-conformists of space are more likely to be found flipping cans in Jita or trying to mine ice during hulkageddon than out on the frontier. Nullsec has become sanitized corporate collectivism gone mad - its 9-5 administrators putting in their shift and boring their brains to self-destruct levels of lassitude.

And this is why these days the most exciting thing in nullsec is in hisec when the aristrocratic functionaries come to get their kicks hunting the urban poor for sport. (sounds a bit like a jean claud van damme film when you think of it like that).

I beg to differ. If people who lived in highsec were risk-intolerant and incapable of following incentives (not good arguments to not balance a game around btw), Hulkageddon Infinity would have resulted in all of them quitting, instead of reshipping to covetors.

The extra risk is part of your enjoyment of the game. Just like the safety is someone elses enjoyment of the game.
Not taking sides. Just making a point.


Tom

This thread now is about e-honour and virile "never see the sun" mom's basement habitants. Cowardice is bad ugly and...

"People Power !!"

Let's do this.