EVE General Discussion

Could you please describe the nature of this "0.0 blueball" for us, and quantify the degree to which conflict is currently running below some general running average or beyond a regular cyclical downturn?

Thanks.

This is the best way to gain consensus.




You cater to the same atrocious people who only did incursions for ISK.
You'll get only atrocious people who go 0.0 for the ISK.
Get 1 random nerf or anything and they will flock away again.




You are making EvE completely like WoW: staged canned zones, where you are MEANT to go from A to B to C.

Your concept of EvE is an abomination of its very nature.

Exactly, hisec income has to come down instead of other incomes going up.

It's coming whether you like it or not.

Deal wiz it.

:wizardhat:

They're banned.

You can check them out if you want...for whatever reason.

Darth Tickles

Setrakdark

The only trend they managed to achieve from CCP so far, is to ruin Hulkageddon forever as CCP are going to buff mining ships to the begeezus come next expansion.

Bravo! You made it for the casual gankers so now they won't be able to play their games any more.

Because to some people, making a little isk but being able to do it whenever they please and comfortably (not having to d-scan once) is better than making loads more isk doing the same thing in NPC null but having to face risks and inconveniences

I think that's a part of the discussion left out (and why the afk miner crowd is sooo much more up in arms about ganking than the mission runner community ever was). Convenience. Some high sec players aren't Risk-averse, they are inconvenience- averse lol.

Even with owning a couple carriers, several cyno alts and access to jump bridges in my alliance's sov space, null sec is inconvenient.

When compared to high sec. In a lvl 4 null sec mission or a deadspace complex, a single neutral or hostile in system doesn't make me instantly dock of safe up, but now i have to spam d-scan looking for combat probes, and I have to be wary of jumping through a gate even if my scout shows it's clear because there could be a cloaky dictor of the gate ect ect. I don't mind it, but lots of people would see actually having to pay attention to the game they are playing as to large a mountain to climb.....

I dealt with the uncomfortable aspects of null by diversifying. I have an alt to do npc null lvl 4s if my upgraded null system is camped, if both the upgraded system AND the mission system are unavailable (which happens), I log in my WH tengu alt. If there is a lot of fighting in my WH, I log in my empire mission running alt ect ect. maintaining 4 accounts ain't easy, but I have options.

People like me try hard to find ways around inconvenience before giving up (or logging off and just playing League of Legends or something lol) or complaining. many others just can't do it, this the arguments we have on here.

Incorrect. Nerfing high sec space will NOT encourage people to move, ever. As was pointed out earlier this would be a spectacularly bad business strategy. I understand that you do not like high sec, and feel that you are somehow entitled to control the game play of others by transitioning them through high, to low, to null, but that will not happen.

True high sec dwellers will no more go to null sec, than a true null sec dweller would ever move to high sec. No-one is expecting null seccers to move, so why should it be expected of people living in high sec? Does them being there really disturb your calm THAT much?

Speaks the guy who managed to get banned twice. Certainly it was not for the too high quality of posting.

I quit EvE once, and because:

- At the time CCP decided to charge freeware developers that poured in hundreds of hours to make EvE a better game.

- At the time CCP subtracted me 2 months worth of game time and never gave it back.

I came back when I read they removed the first obtuse decision AND a GM reassured me they'll never bork my subscriptions again and they have written notes about me.


Now go on your quality way and let the other forum readers decide who writes good or bad.


Edit:

self owned.

The simple thing here is, if you live in Null Sec, that's your choice, same applies to people who live in High Sec. Neither one is better than the other, both are relevant and both have a place in the game.

Players have a right to choose where to go and what to do in this game, and it is not down to one group to say that their play style or their chosen location is the ONLY one worth having. If this simple fact is something you cannot deal with, then perhaps EVE is not the place for you to be.

tl;dr Don't like people having a choice? Then leave.

*EERRRRGGG* WRONG ANSWER.

Actually, a lot of high sec dwellers could not care less about null sec, it has nothing to do with being risk averse, a desire to ISK, lack of confidence or any lack of comprehension. They just do not care.