EVE General Discussion

Primary clone being one you could indicate to be. Sorry was not clear with idea. Something pretty easy to implement I would imagine.

Don't really want more expensive ships but if I lose 200m ISK worth of ship and fittings i should get 200m ISK from my insurance payout. Thats how insurance works, I know if I write my car off in an accident or if it is stolen my insurance will cover the replacement cost.

Scouting is to slow. By time I have scouted the gates from high to whatever system i wanted to go to and then flown back to to my high sec base to get ship I wanted to take originally into low sec odd are the intel I got from scout run is out of date. I don't have two accounts if thats what you meant.

But it is, it have always been US vs THEM in this game, industrialists and miners vs PvP'ers (or rather .. angry bored pvp'ers).
PvP'ers that lack targets ... (or more correctly ... easy targets)

I do have to agree with this...most of 0.0 currently is run more like North Korea. However, as the others have stated, there is generally a reason for this. Granted, there is CVA & the NRDS coalition, however...after living there for about 3-4 months, up until a month ago, I have to say it's far, far more trouble than it's worth I do see why NBSI is the favoured approach now...simply put it makes living in the space that much easier if you know who is friend or foe, rather than wondering is that nuet a friendly miner, or a hotdropper with 30 friends on standby ?

I'm going to bring back up the earlier points of buffing 0.0 industry. Currently, it's a state where high sec - you build/buy stuff. 0.0 - you lose the stuff you brought. Theres almost no point to doing any industry apart from small scale stuff (such as the odd ship/ammo replenishment) as high sec is just so much better for it. So really, instead of empires we get a situation where 0.0 currently is really a huge glorified "PVP zone" (excuse the term ).

You can nerf high sec income all you like, and you can buff 0.0 income all you like, but doing so won't change this situation imo. All you 'may' get is more and more PVP pilots, rather than having a 'player run' and 'player built/developed' empire space, which I think was the original intention of 0.0.

Something else I 'would' like to see though, in the future, if this situation where to develop to the point where alliances allow neutrals and traders in. Taxable gates. Make it so that alliances can place taxes/tolls on gates leading in to systems that they own. It'd be possible to avoid the taxes of course (by not paying), but doing so would mark you in some way to the alliance, meaning that they can police it, but not making it so invading fleets have to pay to invade . Doing so may even entice them to allow traders in simply from the revenue generated from them using these gates. Of course, it'll still bring the problems of whether or not a person may be a spy/hotdropper/cloaker etc etc.

Except that this thread is not about industrialists vs. PvP. It is about null sec residents having to create alts to run L4s because the income vs effort ratio in Null is not as great as it is for running L4 missions.

It is about an industrial complex in space that they own being unremarkable at best and just completely ****ed at the worst.

It is about high sec residents being able to live, work, and play in high sec with little risk (suicide ganking is a risk but in Null there is not always suicide involved with ganking a miner or a mission/sanctum runner). Meanwhile, Null Sec residents can not live, work, and play in null sec independently. They can not make sufficient ISK on an individual level to fund their other activities. This is something that I think the standard High Sec resident takes for granted.

Here's an idea and again please bear in mind my ignorance despite this thread making me a little more enlightened. Why sell Technetium and other commodities in Empire Market Hubs? Sell them in low sec (or set up a market hub in Null?) and force people who want to engage in T2 construction to either come buy it in Null or not build T2 at all. Then have all T2 construction take place in Null and sell the ships in the same market hub. Want a new Hulk for your high sec mining ops? Come on down to 0.0 - we sell them dirt cheap down here.

So what needs to happen is someone needs to fly a plane into a station, get your rank and file all jacked up as a pretext for war with another empire that had nothing to do with it, and go explode them with extreme prejudice. Nah, that's just silly.

Many, if not all, alliances with tech moons have extensive ship replacement programmes.


5% tax on everything in hisec? :haw:

Ship replacement programmes are the alliance's investment in you to enable you to fight for them over an extended period of time.

This doesn't alleviate or fix the lack of rewards to actually play in nullsec outside of fleets.

Sorry if someone has already replied to you about this but this is already the way of it. If you look at someone in an npc corp, state war academy for instance, the italics indicating alliance are Caldari State. Alliances are the empire and corps are the omes who work for them. The system you describe already exists lol.

I'd like to see belt rats in null get a buff in bounty say 2x they are now or make the smallest isk battleship bounty 1mil and the highest 5mil in a 0.0 sec (complexs aside) and every level of true sec gives another 200- 300k extra isk. Would make getting isk ratting on belts more profitable and mean it would out class lvl 4's in highsec hell even incursions if someone had the time, same could be said for lowsec, as atm the bountys just aint worth the risk especially if you live down there or move around alot.

This increases the volume from the ISK Faucet that is Bounties. It is unsustainable but at least you are considering options. I still think that asking high sec residents (myself included) to pay a tax to CONCORD for having CONCORD protection in system is reasonable. Make it a percentage of the estimated ISK value derived from UI. Better yet, make it optional. You don't have to pay it but if you don't CONCORD refuses to take any action on your behalf. After all you didn't pay the dues - no protection for j00!!