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Conrad Makbure
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-06-19 12:39:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Conrad Makbure
The Exequror Navy Issue needs a new niche. Looking at it, it appears to be (short range) high blaster dps/fast cruiser, but once it gets hit with web/scram, that goes away and it's then just a gimped Thorax. For missions, there are cheaper, more efficient ships that get the job done for lev 2's and 3's. Why use it? Or even have it...

I spent LP to get this and play with it, so my ISK spent was low. I didn't do any pvp with it.

Since we're doing a ship rebalance, can we add this one to the list of "needs love right now". Thanks for the consideration.

Other thoughts:

- It should be able to field 5 drones (scouts)
- Give it back it's Logistics role bonues, or a variation thereof
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#2 - 2012-06-19 12:42:43 UTC
Conrad Makbure wrote:
The Exequror Navy Issue needs a new niche. Looking at it, it appears to be (short range) high blaster dps/fast cruiser, but once it gets hit with web/scram, that goes away and it's then just a gimped Thorax. For missions, there are cheaper, more efficient ships that get the job done for lev 2's and 3's. Why use it? Or even have it...

I spent LP to get this and play with it, so my ISK spent was low. I didn't do any pvp with it.

Since we're doing a ship rebalance, can we add this one to the list of "needs love right now". Thanks for the consideration.


If it's just a gimped Thorax then maybe that's just a symptom of the Thorax being overpowered. Maybe they should nerf it.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Ex0101
T-Wrecks
#3 - 2012-06-19 12:57:10 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:

If it's just a gimped Thorax then maybe that's just a symptom of the Thorax being overpowered. Maybe they should nerf it.


Or how about no? Swinging a nerf bat at one ship doesn't magically fix another, you just end up with two bad ships instead of one...
Conrad Makbure
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-06-19 13:15:22 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
Conrad Makbure wrote:
The Exequror Navy Issue needs a new niche. Looking at it, it appears to be (short range) high blaster dps/fast cruiser, but once it gets hit with web/scram, that goes away and it's then just a gimped Thorax. For missions, there are cheaper, more efficient ships that get the job done for lev 2's and 3's. Why use it? Or even have it...

I spent LP to get this and play with it, so my ISK spent was low. I didn't do any pvp with it.

Since we're doing a ship rebalance, can we add this one to the list of "needs love right now". Thanks for the consideration.


If it's just a gimped Thorax then maybe that's just a symptom of the Thorax being overpowered. Maybe they should nerf it.


No. The Thorax is good as is. The navy exequror being under powered for a navy issue is the real problem.
Reicine Ceer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-06-19 14:01:21 UTC
I honestly don;t see why the Navy Issue variants aren't a beefier version of the bog-standard ones. If you take the Raven for example, the CNR makes a whole lotta sense in comparison.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#6 - 2012-06-19 14:06:15 UTC
Exequror Navy Issue being a half way point between Exequror and Oneiros would be nice. Moderate PG bonus to armour repairers so that it can fit a couple of large ones, perhaps?

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Alticus C Bear
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-06-19 14:10:07 UTC
It is meant for pvp. It could do with power grid but it's speed is key.

There are good fits out there.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#8 - 2012-06-19 14:58:57 UTC
All the tier 1 navy cruisers need a bit of love. In fact, the Exequror is far from the worst of them. Have you ever looked at the Fleet Scythe?
Lunkwill Khashour
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-06-19 15:03:56 UTC
The Navy Exequror is a very fast Thorax that doesn't rely on medium drones. It is actually viable, which is an achievement for T1 cruisers. Perhaps it lacks 'oomph' but other cruisers have it much worse.
Conrad Makbure
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-06-19 15:12:01 UTC
It does rely on speed but maybe too much. Once it's webbed, it's done.
Meditril
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#11 - 2012-06-19 15:37:08 UTC
All Tier 1 Faction Cruisers just need their mass to be reduces so that they are more agile and faster then their Tier 2 counterparts. This issue is existing already for long time... :-(
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-06-19 15:42:55 UTC
Conrad Makbure wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:
Conrad Makbure wrote:
The Exequror Navy Issue needs a new niche. Looking at it, it appears to be (short range) high blaster dps/fast cruiser, but once it gets hit with web/scram, that goes away and it's then just a gimped Thorax. For missions, there are cheaper, more efficient ships that get the job done for lev 2's and 3's. Why use it? Or even have it...

I spent LP to get this and play with it, so my ISK spent was low. I didn't do any pvp with it.

Since we're doing a ship rebalance, can we add this one to the list of "needs love right now". Thanks for the consideration.


If it's just a gimped Thorax then maybe that's just a symptom of the Thorax being overpowered. Maybe they should nerf it.


No. The Thorax is good as is. The navy exequror being under powered for a navy issue is the real problem.

Ex0101 wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:

If it's just a gimped Thorax then maybe that's just a symptom of the Thorax being overpowered. Maybe they should nerf it.


Or how about no? Swinging a nerf bat at one ship doesn't magically fix another, you just end up with two bad ships instead of one...


Know sarcasm when you see it. This is just sad.Roll

Exequror fails due to being Gallante. Make it Winmatar, and it shall win. It's about time they remove blasters and Gallante from the game already. Winmatards win. Fly Winmatar, be a Winmatard.Smile
Whisperen
Resilience.
The Initiative.
#13 - 2012-06-19 23:31:24 UTC
More speed and a extra 1PG please.