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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#21 - 2012-06-19 10:20:40 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
I am awesome, and so is my moustache.


I deal in fact, not rumour.


I can confirm that the magnificent 'tache of Bumblefck is a better poster than I am

NB: I'm not always a shiptoaster, sometimes I slip up and actually post something that makes sense.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Liliana Rahl
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#22 - 2012-06-19 12:07:14 UTC
I think you forgot to hit the enter key.
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#23 - 2012-06-19 12:39:11 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Frying Doom wrote:


-edited content-



You just demonstrated how quote an edit.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2012-06-19 12:39:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Grumpy Owly
Actually as much as the EVE-O forums are not really an exercise in "truth" there is a valid component of Meta play aspects applied with normal concerns and interests. Its intrisically evident everytime you favour one aspect over another.

I find this to be an extention to the IG aspects of EVE.

Problematic areas for me however are areas like insults, debunking, manipulation, outright fabrications of issues and obstenate uncompromising biased deliveries etc etc. These elements are only used to destabalise topics or posters as opposed to actually discussing the merits of something.

However, it is fair to say that Jita Corner at election time gets a "special dispensation" by the CCP staff and does inform the playerbase to expect some level of "propoganda" (good or bad) over and above the "normal" recommended daily allowance (?).

My only suggeston with the political aspects of the game is, to allow it to continue, but take these concerns with a pinch of salt. Passions can sometimes be dissproportionally representative to issues as I think is self evident to most, I can be forgiving of it at the best of times to some extent. But the more extreme political stances I do find diffcult to tollerate.

What is also useful to remember is that even large organisations who have significant "political" personalities is that the labeliing of their organisation, whilst understandably "guilty by association" and having intrinsic support, may not be a true picture of all it's members.

Also some posters don't take themselves too seriously, but do like winding up those who are, even if it isn't helpfull overall. So also helpfull to second guess the motivations between player and character goals, a very blurred and confusing line sometimes perhaps?

Apart from that some concensus and figures reflect that the "offical" politics are only representative of the voting populace, which is a fair consideration of any democratic ideals. But it is a minority representation and there is a view that in the main players are apathetic to these politcal elements for whatever reason. Seems to be improving however with each year though. Regardless I still think the ideals of having the CSM is at least another vehicle for players to explore in their "relationship" with CCP.
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#25 - 2012-06-19 12:40:38 UTC
Makkal Hanaya wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
did you pole the Forum community?

Shocked

The word you're looking for is 'poll.'


Or maybe he did mean pole.

Apparently a few of the regular posters have been walking funnily lately.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Lord Ryan
True Xero
#26 - 2012-06-19 12:53:20 UTC
No more post about our masters or their pet CCP employees?

Do not assume anything above this line was typed by me. Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient.

dontbanmebro
Doomheim
#27 - 2012-06-19 12:58:11 UTC
As with all of these rules, if you really find yourself unsure about where the line is and if you're crossing it or not, then you almost assuredly just shouldn't be doing it anyway.

GD is a cancer on this game, and it is my guess that they lose customers who go through the "oh, a forum for general discussion. I'll just pop in and see what goes on here. Oh god....what is this?! Oh god! No, this can't be happening! No! NO! NOOOOOOOOO!". Customer lost.

Restricting the ability of mentally unhinged and emotionally disturbed forum warriors to rabble-rouse is hardly lessening some fundamental element of Eve.
AFK Hauler
State War Academy
#28 - 2012-06-19 13:21:20 UTC
Stop what appears to be ranting about the new forum rules.

There, you can meta game, but choose your words carefully.
Drachiel
Mercury LLC
#29 - 2012-06-19 13:24:06 UTC
So does this mean that falsified speculation in MD for personal profit is banned now? :\

Repeal this CCP.
dontbanmebro
Doomheim
#30 - 2012-06-19 13:25:38 UTC
Drachiel wrote:
So does this mean that falsified speculation in MD for personal profit is banned now? :\

Repeal this CCP.


Don't be dense.
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#31 - 2012-06-19 13:32:33 UTC
Been away and since I got back it has seemed the signal to noise ratio has improved a little on these forums, now I know why

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law

Quartzlight Evenstar Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Operations
#32 - 2012-06-19 13:36:26 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Frying Doom wrote:
.................-edited content-


This is an excellent idea.

There are so many sub-forums, that if one's issue doesn't fall under the confines of one of them, it's more that likely utter nonsense anyway.

EVE Players long ago have proven that the Death of Discourse is a Real Thing through (honestly) psychotic forum hijinx.

Mad Habberdasher says it best in his Blog this morning:

" Reading the forums is the best and worst place to find issues that need to be worked on. A GM who can sort wheat from chaff well will be loved while a GM with a little less discretion will earn the ire of the entire community (ohai CCP Greyscale!)"
-- http://madhaberdashers.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/balancing-sucks/

+1 for the Death of General Discussion.

***

RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#33 - 2012-06-19 13:52:11 UTC
Makkal Hanaya wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
did you pole the Forum community?

Shocked

The word you're looking for is 'poll.'


Poleing is an archaic form of punishment involving bacon grease, an 11-foot pole, 183 board feet of fine oak, and a marmot.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

Morganta
The Greater Goon
#34 - 2012-06-19 13:52:34 UTC
you are reading it wrong

when they say Rumors they mean about CCP, EVE, and or the staff, not other players, corps or alliances

Cloned S0ul
POCKOCMOC Inc.
#35 - 2012-06-19 13:55:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Cloned S0ul
Frying Doom wrote:
The forums can no longer be part of the meta game.



+1
Delen Ormand
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2012-06-19 13:58:26 UTC
Morganta wrote:
you are reading it wrong

when they say Rumors they mean about CCP, EVE, and or the staff, not other players, corps or alliances



Yeah right, so YOU say - reported!
Suqq Madiq
#37 - 2012-06-19 13:58:47 UTC
You mean posting unsubstantiated rumors, personal and inflammatory insults and other assorted drivel will no longer be considered acceptable behavior on the EVE Forums? THIS IS AN OUTRAGE! Now I'll have to make a REDDIT or SOMETHING AWFUL account to do all my shitposting. Cry
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#38 - 2012-06-19 14:13:03 UTC
Morganta wrote:
you are reading it wrong

when they say Rumors they mean about CCP, EVE, and or the staff, not other players, corps or alliances




So we can no longer discuss that incident involving CCP Soundwave?

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Generals4
#39 - 2012-06-19 14:16:44 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
don't worry noone believed you anyway

...did you pole the Forum community?....
... they are going pretty hard atm.


Sounds kinky

_-Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. _

Olan Dumis
Doomheim
#40 - 2012-06-19 15:32:19 UTC
No rants
No personal attacks
No rumors
No trolling

What will be left of the fourms? CCP doesn't have enough employees to acctually enforce these policies. Good attempt at trying to look like you care though.
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