EVE General Discussion

you work hard, mission hard, grab the alt/friend/anyone and drag them in to grab the myriad of pleasures that turn up in the salvage.

Not any more. the response to your request for help, is "forget it, I am not salvaging pieces of ****".

Because since the change, thats what our inestimable salvagers see. Pieces of metal to turn into trit. I wonder if CCP have looked at the stats on the drone missions, how they have effectively become.......

bottom of the pile.

Today for example. The crew is out mining in hi sec, the rats roll in and we get? Aside from metal scraps? One mildly interesting salvage. I can tell you now that the crew have lost interest in the rat salvage and I also know that the crew are unimpressed with the change in L4 salvage.

They have this sweeping statement about it affecting the drone zones in nul sec. and therefore making everything better.

Wrong.

Late rant or not, I have very unimpressed corpies and friends, who find the end result of their hard work is bloody trit.....

CCP's sats should be starting to see a reduction in salvage. my mob dont salvage anything below L4 any more for this reason.

And it SUCKS

The big yummy parts drop in low sec and null anyway. It's almost always been that way. Want juicy drops? You've got to get down.

Missions are hardly work.

So CCP turned ship wreckage trash into trash. Sounds interesting. Please tell me more.

Blue salvage from overseers has also gone down it seems but hey I'm not complaining, the ones I do get will sell for more

Thats part of the problem. There doesnt seem to be as much of a profit in missioning as there was and the ship prices are through the roof.

As an mature indy, thats fine, but theres less in the salvage for those trying to grind their way to the good stuff without resorting to ETC....

There was a good percentage in salvage and it seems to be gone..

That may apply to you, Mr been here for years, but what about someone grinding their way up? Eveything counts.

So young and already whining about the changes. Mr. Blue is sad.

Got 2/3rds of the way through the SOE arc in a destroyer the other day and had not come close to filling up the cargo hold in it with the mission drops. Took the cargo expanders off the Noctis because you don't fill the base hold on a level 4 anymore. The new UI is annoying as hell and forces a different method of salvaging which requires more mouse work and kills looting on the fly.

It is CCPs game, they make the rules, they make the choices. I wish they would allow for more flexibility, but the one-size fits all routine of removing functionality and variety is killing the game.

This talk is a good example of what I am refering to in terms of choice. If you are of a short attention span, just to about 16:25

http://www.ted.com/talks/malcolm_gladwell_on_spaghetti_sauce.html

TLDR: Looting and Salvaging is no longer worth the time. Choice is being removed.

For the 'then leave' crowd. Tomorrow my account runs out. I'll check back in a few months.

If you're saying EvE doesn't allow a diverse play style you're terribly wrong my friend. The fact that CCP changed aspects from a few of those styles doesn't mean they removed diversity. What they are doing in general is fitting the mechanics of the game to the phylosophy of risk = reward. All the diversity of gamestyles is still there.

The new UI changed nothing from salvaging: target wreck, activate salvager. Mission looting is still a choice. Not as rewarding as it used to be but you can still do it and save yourself from buying some modules.

When I started playing the game I liked to loot just to get to know the different modules from the game. Missioning and looting isn't supposed to be a 'profession' IMO. It becomes boring and repetitive with time. And if you're not doing it for fun then you're doing it wrong.