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An Open Letter to Jade Constantine

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Dyllyn
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#61 - 2012-06-19 02:01:50 UTC
I hope CCP caves in, backpedals on the nerf to wardecs, gives Jade what he wants, so we can continue to shoot him and his cohorts. Hisec's much more fun when we don't have to lose security status while killing badly fit ships flown by ~elite highsec pvpers~
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#62 - 2012-06-19 02:04:20 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Tippia wrote:
It's a bug. Exploiting that bug is an exploit. Just because the bug is being fixed doesn't make the exploitation of the bug a non-exploit.



So have CCP announced that having defensive allies is a "bug" and anyone clicking "accept" when offered support for zero isk is actually "exploiting" this "bug"?

Or is this just made up stuff ?

Watch how he latches on to a minor, minor point and hammers on it, while ignoring the actual reason for why the wardec changes are happening.

Classic.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#63 - 2012-06-19 02:05:08 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
So have CCP announced that having defensive allies is a "bug" and anyone clicking "accept" when offered support for zero isk is actually "exploiting" this "bug"?
They have announced that it's not the intended functionality of the wardec and ally system. So no, it's not made up stuff.
Freezehunter
#64 - 2012-06-19 02:05:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Freezehunter
Jade Constantine wrote:
Tippia wrote:
It's a bug. Exploiting that bug is an exploit. Just because the bug is being fixed doesn't make the exploitation of the bug a non-exploit.



So have CCP announced that having defensive allies is a "bug" and anyone clicking "accept" when offered support for zero isk is actually "exploiting" this "bug"?

Or is this just made up stuff ?



That is implied by default, provided you have a brain.

It's called common sense, and you are ignoring to justify this crusade of yours.

Also, stop looking for loopholes in the "law" to justify your exploiting, get some ******* backbone for once.

Ultimately, what you did and encouraged others to do is wrong.

I'd like to see **** like this fly in WoW, Blizzard would ban your ass for 50 lifetimes for instigating such crap.

You are lucky CCP is an awesome and forgiving developer.

Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom.
Mara Tessidar
Perkone
Caldari State
#65 - 2012-06-19 02:07:03 UTC
Jade, they clearly changed noodle mechanics because of excess sausage complaints.

Stop whining.


What, that post didn't make sense? Well, it sure as hell made more sense than yours do.
Freezehunter
#66 - 2012-06-19 02:08:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Freezehunter
Mara Tessidar wrote:
Jade, they clearly changed noodle mechanics because of excess sausage complaints.

Stop whining.


What, that post didn't make sense? Well, it sure as hell made more sense than yours do.


Yes, there were too many sausages in the pie, so they added an exponential noodle tax.

Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom.
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#67 - 2012-06-19 02:08:52 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:

I'm sure you won't get banned for it, since it's being patched soon enough, but it's still an exploit. CCP Soundwave basically said so himself, right before you basically said he was in on the goon conspiracy.


Can you link me to CCP soundwave saying that zero isk defensive ally contracts are "basically" an exploit please?

(if indeed he did say this)

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#68 - 2012-06-19 02:12:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Jade Constantine wrote:
Can you link me to CCP soundwave saying that zero isk defensive ally contracts are "basically" an exploit please?
Strawman. This is close enough, though.
Freezehunter
#69 - 2012-06-19 02:13:31 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Can you link me to CCP soundwave saying that zero isk defensive ally contracts are "basically" an exploit please?
Strawman.


I prefer Noodleman.

Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom.
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#70 - 2012-06-19 02:13:41 UTC
Freezehunter wrote:
Mara Tessidar wrote:
Jade, they clearly changed noodle mechanics because of excess sausage complaints.

Stop whining.


What, that post didn't make sense? Well, it sure as hell made more sense than yours do.


Yes, there were too many sausages in the pie, so they added a cubic noodle tax.


Oh, you live in Canada, too? Blink

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.
Dyllyn
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#71 - 2012-06-19 02:17:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Dyllyn
Give up, gentlemen.

Jade's argumentative repertoire involves cherry picking, willful ignorance, conspiracy theories, all regurgitated while wearing a tinfoil hat so massive one can only assume the wearer is compensating for something.

Appealing to the common sense of a man with just enough common sense to start a space brothel is inane and pointless.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#72 - 2012-06-19 02:17:51 UTC
Dyllyn wrote:
I hope CCP caves in, backpedals on the nerf to wardecs, gives Jade what he wants, so we can continue to shoot him and his cohorts. Hisec's much more fun when we don't have to lose security status while killing badly fit ships flown by ~elite highsec pvpers~

It would be nice.

We can spread the feeling of being camped into a station by DaBigRedBoat, 200 Drakes and 30 Scimitars to EVERYONE ~~~

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Hesperus Vanderbeets
The Greater Goon
#73 - 2012-06-19 02:18:02 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:


Or is this just made up stuff ?




Funny you say that...
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#74 - 2012-06-19 02:20:41 UTC
We should just wardec dozens of our own out of alliance altcorps and request assistance with all of them, just to blow Jade's conspiracy theory out of the water.

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#75 - 2012-06-19 02:21:08 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Can you link me to CCP soundwave saying that zero isk defensive ally contracts are "basically" an exploit please?
Strawman. This is close enough, though.


That link doesn't lead to him saying anything of the sort!

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#76 - 2012-06-19 02:21:20 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Can you link me to CCP soundwave saying that zero isk defensive ally contracts are "basically" an exploit please?
Strawman. This is close enough, though.

That post'll just be deflected just like he did in this post, though.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#77 - 2012-06-19 02:22:13 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Can you link me to CCP soundwave saying that zero isk defensive ally contracts are "basically" an exploit please?

(if indeed he did say this)


Can you link me to the chorus of goons saying that we're suffering under the tyranny of your mutual wardec please?

(if the chorus of goons indeed said this)

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#78 - 2012-06-19 02:24:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Jade Constantine wrote:
That link doesn't lead to him saying anything of the sort!
…aside from him agreeing with a description of it as being an unintended flaw in the design. That means it's basically an exploit, and it means he's basically saying so.

Specifically, it very closely adheres to the template of a duping exploit.
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#79 - 2012-06-19 02:25:53 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
That link doesn't lead to him saying anything of the sort!
…aside from him agreeing with a description of it as being an unintended flaw in the design. That means it's basically an exploit, and it means he's basically saying so. Specifically, it very closely adheres to the template of a duping exploit.


I think you are trying to put words into a developer's mouth at this point to suit your own definition of exploit.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
Freezehunter
#80 - 2012-06-19 02:27:30 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
That link doesn't lead to him saying anything of the sort!
…aside from him agreeing with a description of it as being an unintended flaw in the design. That means it's basically an exploit, and it means he's basically saying so. Specifically, it very closely adheres to the template of a duping exploit.


I think you are trying to put words into a developer's mouth at this point to suit your own definition of exploit.


Some of us are long time gamers and we know what the **** we are talking about when we say something is an exploit or a bug.

Just because you probably can't tell a bug or exploit from your ass doesn't mean it's not there.

Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom.