EVE General Discussion

The topic states it really, if CCP is large enough and Ugly enough that it can afford to do a hair pin turn around and promise us all this junk for winter that is FIS.. then why oh why can't they: Assign resources to the FIS side AND keep resources on the WiS side.

I mean lets face it CCP's basically announced that they have done what they always do, release a feature not finished and then walked away from it rather then finishing it.. And yet we know that apparently CCP has had a 'change of heart' and that Hilmar has seen that Eve is 'central' to the survival of the company (cause it pays the bills).. Ok, then prove it, leave the people working on Incarna working on Incarna and Assign other people to bring out the Bug fixes and 'updated' content for the Flying In space side of the game.

In other words, pool your developers for 4 months and finish BOTH.

If you actually read through the forums and remove the 'we hate incarna' , 'we love ccp' etc etc etc etc over the past several months you'll see that this is what a lot of people have been worried about even more.. That once again after YEARS of teasing us about a product addition in this case walking in stations..and social interactions.. CCP would drop the ball and leave it 'abandoned' I don't know about the rest of you but this Cycle of half finished expansions is part of what has me wondering what the point of continuing to play eve is?

So that the winter expansion can be half finished to?

and the Summer one after that?

and the winter one after that?

INCARNA was meant to be more then a Glorified Tech Demo and yet now we have Hilmar and Zulu admitting hey that's all it is and that's all your getting.. INCURSION before it.. well half it's features didn't come out until half way through INCARNA (these forums included), and oh look.. we can continue to go this way almost all the way back to the start, as people point out there have been 2 'completed' expansions.. and both where under duress...

So ok.. if they have enough 'people' to develope, delivere and make a 'great' expansion by Christmas.. then reassign some of the resources given to DUST and WoD, leave the FIS people where they are, and have your so called experts at this whole avatar side work on incarna.. after all WoD especially will benefit from it, everything you learn making the avatar sandbox of Eve helps with your World of Darkness game.

Failing all of this here's a shocking idea for you.......

rather then just introducing new 'crap' all the time, how about introducing new TOOLS for the players to use to make the GAMEPLAY they want.. like the sandbox is meant to allow.

Must appease the masses...
More people unsub cause of lack of fis update than people unsub cause of bad wis.

I like your idea tho.. It would be nice if they could work on both at the same time.

FIS means more PVP means mining becomes more profitable tbh
also FW hasnt been touched for years.... sad really

Have you got any idea about how the entire feature development process works? All the departments that get involved?

Working in a global IT department myself, even if we play with more cash than probably involved here and not gaming related:
Yes, I know that there is usually specialization involved and I would not entrust our basis team with configuration, to be honest.

Some one who see's the point of this..


The Walking in Station / Avatar side of the game as people keep trying to scream is the same technology being used by World of Darkness....

And given that people have been 'screaming' that resources are being pumped into WOD and DUST and not eve.. then how is asking for the WOD team to be assigned to FINISH Incarna as it was meant to be.. stuipid?

People are screaming and crying over more then just Flying in space.. so those who think it is just FIS need to DEAL with it just as much.

Incarna is just the final thing on a long list that has tipped the player base into a frenzy, why?

Because once again we had been promised something and that 'promise' wasn't delievered on.. not only at the start of the expansion cycle.. but also at it's end of summer 'deadline' when all the Captains Quarters should have been released paving the way for the Establishments.

So again if CCP has enough resources to suddenly just 'drop' everything and change to FIS and deliver EVERYTHING they are claiming they can, then shift enough resources to DO BOTH.

I stopped reading there, I believe most people play an internet spaceship game for the internet spaceships.

And I agree FW as it was left was and is a Joke, but you can't say that the same Development Team working here is going to be the same team that was on incarna.

Basically every one is yay'n oevr what appears to be 'Team BFF gets a few more resources so we can pretend we are fixing things'


Ok that's fine.. give team BFF their resources.. but get those resourcse from WOD or DUST not from the existing INCARNA team.

You mean like COSMOS (even I have lost track after all these years what COSMOS currently is and what it is currently supposed to be) and EVE Gate?

That's fine didn't ask you to come into this thread to begin with did i? ;)

as pointed out by many including Hilmar.. eve is meant to be MORE then FIS.

On the Armchair Development:

Of course it is... I'm not working for CCP and neither are you.. I'm just pointing out that based on what CCP claims, Every one who's been whinning and screaming for the past 3 months Claim and the CSM claim.. CCP has a 'massive' pool of 'employee's' working on 3 projects:

Eve

World of Darkness

Dust.

Now according to all you who have been bagging Incarna, Incarna is all just 'test beds' for World of Darkness.. and all the 'Eve Resources' have been funneled into it..

Also according to all of the posts on the forums, team BFF was all that was left developing the 'real eve'

well apparently Zulu/Hulmar's giving team BFF resources cause FIS is getting it's lovely fixes.. in WINTER.

Incarna was the SUMMER expansion and it's NOT FINISHED.. surprise surprise.

So using forum posters logic....


CCP has massive amounts of people working on WOD and Dust and none on Eve..

There for..

If i take from WOD and DUST and Assign to Eve then everything can be done!

that is the logic people have been sprouting on these forums, and what I basically put up there..

but heaven help if some one suggests that CCP is not assign 'enoguh' to eve still.. because no I forgot F.I.S is being done again lets go kiss CCP's rear and hump the CCP pole.. because it doesn't matter that we just got left with a Quarter Done expansion.. that SHOULD be able to be finished by it's team while others focus on the other aspects of the game to appease a bunch of people who have no vision of what eve was meant to be.