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Trollin
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-06-17 08:28:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Trollin
plenty of pirates and gankers fail terribly at their attempts, but no mails are given to shame them with and mailwhore about... Idea

We are our own worst enemy.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#2 - 2012-06-17 09:11:46 UTC
Are you one of those failed gankers, and are you asking for one of these 'survival reports'?

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Vicky Somers
Rusty Anchor
#3 - 2012-06-17 10:22:03 UTC
Shoot them and whore in on the killmail?
Solhild
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-06-17 11:54:49 UTC
Trollin wrote:
plenty of pirates and gankers fail terribly at their attempts, but no mails are given to shame them with and mailwhore about... Idea


10/10, excellent Big smile
Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-06-17 12:14:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Grumpy Owly
Trollin wrote:
plenty of pirates and gankers fail terribly at their attempts, but no mails are given to shame them with and mailwhore about... Idea


Interesting concept, the lack of information gives you a clear understanding to the situation?

Regardless, I can see the educative benefits of having loss mails. TBH: it would be useful if not interesting to be able to see CONCORDS KB perhaps.

Though how you will be able to discern a failed "gank" distinctly from the details without having the intended target's identified might simply be problematic as what happens if people want to inflate the stats with attempting to kill freindly NPCs or Concord themselves? Or engineer things with KB padding and testing? Likewise some low sec encounters that fail or even "succeed and then fail" may also be as a result of gate/station gun mechanics and GCC status.

Also would the gank only be a success if the dropped amount exceeds the value of the gank? Will it identify if the loot was actually recovered by the ganker or associates, though happy to assume all are, it's still technically a loss to the target I imagine in most cases? Whats the retrospective impact to the target and/or tear "saturation level"?

The qualifying critereon might need to be explored really to be able to answer what questions you really have here I think. But I think its a bit more convoluted simpy because people have a different concept of what is a "failure" here.

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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#6 - 2012-06-17 13:16:25 UTC
YBT

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
AFK Hauler
State War Academy
#7 - 2012-06-17 14:20:38 UTC
I thought the new system was not called "killmail" anymore. I think it's some kind if 'interaction report', which should qualify under your request.

Pretty sure that it will take too much server space to mash out the numbers and logs for every pot shot taken at someone.
Maddy Joringer
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-06-17 14:34:04 UTC
I was happily mining to a can minding my own business when a guy in a dramial can flips me... Funny .......Went and docked came back in a hauler fit with Warp stabiliser,2 cargo extenders and 3 shield extenders, stole the contents of his can and warped to a safe spot and sat there for 15 minutes Lol
Ituhata Saken
Killboard Padding Services
#9 - 2012-06-17 14:55:49 UTC
An actual combat log ought to do it. I'm assuming we don't have one, I've never checked.

So close...
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-06-17 14:58:12 UTC
Concord KB would be easier and more effective.
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#11 - 2012-06-17 15:01:28 UTC
if they post their kills they should post their losses

any corp that does not should be openly chastised in the corp forums
then just peruse their KBs for the losses you seek, all nice and tidy
Gun Gal
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-06-17 15:33:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Gun Gal
Mining in a Covetor, three armor rigs, small named shield booster. Attempted gank by solo-tard failed, hauler grabbed his loot.
His rants and empty threats made my week.
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#13 - 2012-06-17 15:34:54 UTC
Gun Gal wrote:
Mining in a Covetor, three armor rigs, small named shield booster. Attempted gank by solo-tar failed, hauler grabbed his loot.
His rants and empty threats made my week.

Posting to confirm I'd use a shield booster with armor rigs, too. Roll

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#14 - 2012-06-17 15:37:05 UTC
Darth Gustav wrote:
Gun Gal wrote:
Mining in a Covetor, three armor rigs, small named shield booster. Attempted gank by solo-tar failed, hauler grabbed his loot.
His rants and empty threats made my week.

Posting to confirm I'd use a shield booster with armor rigs, too. Roll


Screw that, hull repper with no DC and mixed tank rigs.
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#15 - 2012-06-17 15:39:02 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Darth Gustav wrote:
Gun Gal wrote:
Mining in a Covetor, three armor rigs, small named shield booster. Attempted gank by solo-tar failed, hauler grabbed his loot.
His rants and empty threats made my week.

Posting to confirm I'd use a shield booster with armor rigs, too. Roll


Screw that, hull repper with no DC and mixed tank rigs.

Shield Extender, Reinforced Bulkheads, Aux Nano rigs.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
Ituhata Saken
Killboard Padding Services
#16 - 2012-06-17 15:39:41 UTC
Morganta wrote:
if they post their kills they should post their losses

any corp that does not should be openly chastised in the corp forums
then just peruse their KBs for the losses you seek, all nice and tidy


I'm thinking alot of corps do not bother reporting losses caused by NPC's. Which is good, I lost a torp raven once to 3 officer spawns because I got hung on a rock and they stayed out of range.

So close...