Science & Industry

So I'm progressing in the game and while I have been loving my Tristan and Catalyst for missions, I needed Isk so I took to mining Omber variants in .5 sec space. However, I purchased an Iteron to do this as I met the skill requirements and it holds a ton of ore. I am planning on upgrading to a Iteron III tonight as that variant seems to allow 2 turrets (so 2 miners), however I noticed that their is indeed specific mining vessels, though the first two in the series require a lot more skill wise as well as don't hold as much as my Iteron. I can see training the skills so I can one day get a Covetor, but for now is there any reason why I shouldn't be using my Iteron/III to do this?

As far as being a paperweight with armor as soon as I see another ship or red on the radar I warp away.

unless you are making mining your profession, stick with missions. lvl 4 missions will net you 2-3 times more an hour then even the highest maxed out mining pilot in empire.

If you are going to mine, the least you can do is to start by not mining Omber. Take a look at this link; it has approximate values on the various ores per m^3; as you can see, Omber is at the bottom.

My noobs are free because I mine them myself.

Stick with ur Catalyst til you can fly a ORE mining vessel.
On Catalyst you can mount up to 5 or 6 XeCl Drilling Beam I's to fill up some Giant secure containers. And cargo hold extenders in the low's.
Haul ur ore with ur Iteron. Train the Iteron further to Iteron V, cargo hold of 38.000M3.
And those Iterons can only have 1 miner on it............... so no good use to mine in it, and it got no guns or drones to defend itself while having a miner mounted.

Depends on your in-game goals. If you like missioning, I would say stick with that. If you plan on mining, I would again say stick with missioning just now. Find an NPC corp that is in areas you like to mine and work on improving your standing in order to lower your taxes when refining ore or just selling your minerals. Corp suggestions are “Caldari Navy” for good rates on selling in Jita, Sisters of Eve as they are found just about everywhere and any Corp with R&D agent’s to help later on Data Core supplies. You can run missions, working on standings while building up your ability to run mission ships and training for mining barges and exhumers. The yield you will get now trying to mine will be FAR outstripped later with focused mining ships so better to mission sooner than later.

I’ve done the Iteron mining thing back when I was starting so I have some input there too. If you mine in 0.9 or 1.0 systems there are no rats to worry about so you can AFK mine and risk only other players attacking. If you go this route I would suggest just mining veldspar. The tritanium it refines into does not sell for much individually but you do get volume. Tritanium also sells on the market very well and in great volume so it is not hard to find a buyer. It is a good place to start out understanding the market and you will always be able to unload it for a decent rate.

And again someone who does not know the market mechanics of eve:

If you select a bigger, more expensive order over a few cheaper smaller ones at the same station, you will really by from the smaller ones, until they are empty and then go to the next big one, you thought you selected. The smaller ones will receive more money, than they asked for.

Strange, but true

Oh, I know that.

It's when it's scattered across several systems that it's annoying.

*an expansion for the hard of understanding*
While I could use a ranged buy order and pick up the same volume of trit from a number of systems, with a single order, I'd then have to spend my time flying between these systems to collect it. As time is money, I'd rather pay that little bit more to get it concentrated in a single station, and collect it all at once.

Yes, it costs more. But collecting it has an opportunity cost of mission running/exploration/running other cargo/not being bored out of my skull.

When I was a mining nooblet I found another noob to mine with.. we met every day and mined for hours in 1.0 systems. I had trained a bestower up and he had a covertor. He mined into a can and I took the ore into the bestower and ran to the station. We split the yield evenly every day. I really had a good feeling because of this about eve for the way coorperation in play could synergize your profit.

If you have to you could mine and run to the station in a barge. It's slower.. but I did this until I could afford my first hulk. Which at the time was around 450 million isk.

I heard that Jet Can mining in 0.6 systems is completely safe...