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Beware! Hulkageddon continued "indefinitely"
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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#41 - 2012-06-15 16:07:46 UTC
Tarendar wrote:
Salo Aldeland wrote:
Nah, use a Covetor. The ongoing bounties are only for Macks and Hulks.


Everybody is doing that very thing. Cruising through Ivar and Osau, it's all T1 barges now. Demand is so low that Hulks are actually selling at a loss; if you could reprocess them for parts, I'd be doing it.


Luckily, GSF is doing their part to help Hulk manufacturers:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=121168

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Hemmo Paskiainen
#42 - 2012-06-16 00:23:45 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
The Jagji wrote:
I have a better idea. Screw Hulkageddon. Lets have Goonagedden. You see a goon, you kill it. simple. :P


Do it. Provide bounties. Nothing's stopping you.


give me a few tech moons for free isk and its done

If relativity equals time plus momentum, what equals relativity, if the momentum is minus to the time?
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#43 - 2012-06-16 02:08:08 UTC
Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
The Jagji wrote:
I have a better idea. Screw Hulkageddon. Lets have Goonagedden. You see a goon, you kill it. simple. :P


Do it. Provide bounties. Nothing's stopping you.


give me a few tech moons for free isk and its done


So, while you're trying (and failing) to take Tech moons (imposing the cost of defense on their holders), you're claiming it's free ISK?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Hemmo Paskiainen
#44 - 2012-06-16 10:00:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Hemmo Paskiainen
RubyPorto wrote:
Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
The Jagji wrote:
I have a better idea. Screw Hulkageddon. Lets have Goonagedden. You see a goon, you kill it. simple. :P


Do it. Provide bounties. Nothing's stopping you.


give me a few tech moons for free isk and its done


So, while you're trying (and failing) to take Tech moons (imposing the cost of defense on their holders), you're claiming it's free ISK?

stop trolling you idioot, ofc its free isk... i wil bite though and say that the time + costs to take, hold and defense the amount of techmoons goons hold cost in avarage maybe 1 mil isk per hour on long term base... so yes basicly its a free isk printing machine worse than t2 bpos...

If relativity equals time plus momentum, what equals relativity, if the momentum is minus to the time?
shar'ra matcevsovski
Doomheim
#45 - 2012-06-16 11:15:41 UTC
Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:

stop trolling you idioot,


phew, thank god you added the extra "o" to not call him idiot, cos that would be stoopid rite?

Quote:
so yes basicly its a free isk printing machine worse than t2 bpos..


haha I always thought brewlars unique kind of argumentation reminds me on someone, there we go!


btw it is not free ISK. the moons are available to everyone in the game, and if you say that the alliances that hold the Tech moons are owning them with no effort at all, you have to take all the effort it took to build up these alliances and their reputation that made them be so "scary" into credit, that everybody just let have them the moons so cheap.

its all about their enemies on how much it cost them to keep the moons, and as a enemy I must say you cant do too well when this 1 mil per moon calculation is true ;)

shar'ra phone home
Commit Sudoku
Perkone
Caldari State
#46 - 2012-06-16 12:53:11 UTC
come get some tech moons then aaa you inept retards

guy on foreground: me posting guy in background: you
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#47 - 2012-06-16 13:03:13 UTC
Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
The Jagji wrote:
I have a better idea. Screw Hulkageddon. Lets have Goonagedden. You see a goon, you kill it. simple. :P


Do it. Provide bounties. Nothing's stopping you.


give me a few tech moons for free isk and its done


So, while you're trying (and failing) to take Tech moons (imposing the cost of defense on their holders), you're claiming it's free ISK?

stop trolling you idioot, ofc its free isk... i wil bite though and say that the time + costs to take, hold and defense the amount of techmoons goons hold cost in avarage maybe 1 mil isk per hour on long term base... so yes basicly its a free isk printing machine worse than t2 bpos...


Free Isk ... Costs 1m Isk/hr ... Free Isk ... Costs 1m Isk/hr


One of these things is not like the other,
One of these things just doesn't belong,
Can you tell which thing is not like the other
By the time I finish my song?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#48 - 2012-06-17 23:27:54 UTC
Yhe yhe blow my ship
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#49 - 2012-06-18 01:45:13 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Luckily, GSF is doing their part to help Hulk manufacturers:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=121168


Hulk manufacturer = Goon
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#50 - 2012-06-18 03:16:47 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Luckily, GSF is doing their part to help Hulk manufacturers:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=121168


Hulk manufacturer = Goon


How are they maintaining a monopoly on invention? Do they have all the NPC seeded Covetor BPOs? Are they yelling (very softly) that people better not be inventing Hulks?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#51 - 2012-06-18 05:59:35 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
How are they maintaining a monopoly on invention? Do they have all the NPC seeded Covetor BPOs? Are they yelling (very softly) that people better not be inventing Hulks?


They own all Covetor/Hulk BPOs. Inventing Hulk BPC after Inferno 1.1 is impossible. All Covetor BPCs cost 1+ bil. And because ORE space is out of limits for everyone else there's no way someone could get Covetor BPO.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#52 - 2012-06-18 16:08:24 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
How are they maintaining a monopoly on invention? Do they have all the NPC seeded Covetor BPOs? Are they yelling (very softly) that people better not be inventing Hulks?


They own all Covetor/Hulk BPOs. Inventing Hulk BPC after Inferno 1.1 is impossible. All Covetor BPCs cost 1+ bil. And because ORE space is out of limits for everyone else there's no way someone could get Covetor BPO.


Ahhh.... HAHAHAHAHAHA

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#53 - 2012-06-18 16:41:41 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Ahhh.... HAHAHAHAHAHA


Who else owns Hulk BPO then? It's a bit weird if you guys don't own all of them.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#54 - 2012-06-18 19:43:37 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Ahhh.... HAHAHAHAHAHA


Who else owns Hulk BPO then? It's a bit weird if you guys don't own all of them.


1) Still not a Goon here.

2) You claimed they have a monopoly on building Hulks, then further claimed that they had all the Covetor BPOs, and had made inventing Hulks impossibru.

3) I doubt very much that all Hulk BPOs are owned/controlled by the GSF anyway. Running a Hulk BPO only makes 2-3b ISK a month. It's just not worth the 100b+ investment.

Jorma Morkkis wrote:

They own all Covetor/Hulk BPOs. Inventing Hulk BPC after Inferno 1.1 is impossible. All Covetor BPCs cost 1+ bil. And because ORE space is out of limits for everyone else there's no way someone could get Covetor BPO.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#55 - 2012-06-18 20:42:45 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Still not a Goon here.


Yeah, sure...

RubyPorto wrote:
3) I doubt very much that all Hulk BPOs are owned/controlled by the GSF anyway. Running a Hulk BPO only makes 2-3b ISK a month. It's just not worth the 100b+ investment.


That's why they have Hulkageddon Infinity. They probably make 1+ trillion / month out of it even though they pay 100M per Hulk kill.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#56 - 2012-06-18 20:55:48 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Still not a Goon here.


Yeah, sure...

RubyPorto wrote:
3) I doubt very much that all Hulk BPOs are owned/controlled by the GSF anyway. Running a Hulk BPO only makes 2-3b ISK a month. It's just not worth the 100b+ investment.


That's why they have Hulkageddon Infinity. They probably make 1+ trillion / month out of it even though they pay 100M per Hulk kill.


1) Waffles != GSF.

2) Per EvE Market Guide*, an ME100,PE100 Hulk BPO runs a profit of 4.7m Isk/hr. There are 730hrs in a month. That is a profit of 3,400m Isk/month per BPO. To make 1T isk/month from Hulk BPO manufacture, they'd need to be running 294 Hulk BPOs. There are not 294 Hulk BPOs, and the 9966 Hulks those BPOs would produce would almost double the Jita market volume of around 6,000 Hulks per month.

Of course the GSF is making money (indirectly) from HAG (though not Jr HAG). But it's not because of any sort of Hulk manufacture.

And finally, they pay 10m isk/Hulk in 100m/10 Hulk packages. You've been corrected on that point several times. Stop lying about it.

*http://www.eve-market-guide.com/t1item.php?id=22544#

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#57 - 2012-06-18 22:52:07 UTC
i don't know of any goons that own hulk bpos

mittens wanted to buy a sabre bpo for the alliance but we talked him out of it after I pointed out even at an amarr t3 station we got less than 1% roi per month

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#58 - 2012-06-19 00:55:57 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
i don't know of any goons that own hulk bpos

mittens wanted to buy a sabre bpo for the alliance but we talked him out of it after I pointed out even at an amarr t3 station we got less than 1% roi per month


But... but... the gospel of the great Brewlar Kuvakei teaches us that T2BPOs are free isk printing machines. If the mighty goonswarm doesn't think they're worthwhile, then our whole religion might well fall down around Weaselior's giant ears.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Sen Roo
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2012-06-19 01:03:12 UTC
Brewlar is a half wit. Full stop.Roll
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#60 - 2012-06-19 01:41:37 UTC
Sen Roo wrote:
Brewlar is a half wit. Full stop.Roll


I think you're being generous.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon