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New ship explosions are too fast, small and short :(
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Guts'n Guns
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-06-16 09:35:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Guts'n Guns
Hi CCP,

i really like the work of your art team, especially the new textures and missile effects. But i really was hoping for some kind of "KAWOOOMBADDABOOMPEWPEW*-Explosion that lasts at least 5 seconds or longer with several smaller explosions and a lot more flying fireballs and debris instead of just a "BOOOM".
We are not playing a space ship game where we control little fighters, but ships that are bigger than carriers of the US Navy. The speed of the explosion is way too fast and subexplosions would make it more realistic. For frigates, fighters and maybe cruisers the explosions are ok, but not for BCs BSs and sure not for bigger stuff...

Please put some more work into the explosions before you throw them on the server! I am waiting for so long for new and finally good ship explosions and if this is the final result, i am really a bit disappointed :(.

Dev posts are welcome! :)
CBBOMBERMAN
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-06-16 09:47:04 UTC
its ok. once you start drinking, they will seem to be at the right speed Blink
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-06-16 10:41:39 UTC
wow, they look like CRAP ! o_O

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLldTqAXIbw

Here. Wing Commander 2. Realtime explosions.
Of course they are low res and not smooth,
but they are done in *realtime* and they actually look like *explosions* !
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-06-16 12:34:29 UTC
Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#5 - 2012-06-16 12:45:07 UTC
Pretty sure explosions in space would be fairly undramatic IRL, since there is no oxygen to aid the propagation of any fireballs etc. Not to mention the fact that most of the missiles, if not all, seem to be powered by solid fuel engines so no exploding fuel either.

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
Guts'n Guns
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-06-16 13:05:03 UTC
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
Pretty sure explosions in space would be fairly undramatic IRL, since there is no oxygen to aid the propagation of any fireballs etc. Not to mention the fact that most of the missiles, if not all, seem to be powered by solid fuel engines so no exploding fuel either.


So what?
Is your excuse for terrible sound effects in eve also "sound in space makes no sense"?
This is a video game and good looking effects are part of it like good looking explosions are part of every scifi-movie battle.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#7 - 2012-06-16 13:44:55 UTC
Guts'n Guns wrote:
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
Pretty sure explosions in space would be fairly undramatic IRL, since there is no oxygen to aid the propagation of any fireballs etc. Not to mention the fact that most of the missiles, if not all, seem to be powered by solid fuel engines so no exploding fuel either.


So what?
Is your excuse for terrible sound effects in eve also "sound in space makes no sense"?
This is a video game and good looking effects are part of it like good looking explosions are part of every scifi-movie battle.


EvE has sound?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Sobach
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-06-16 13:55:37 UTC
I think it looks... ok. Better than the generic blue flash we have right now, though I do agree it should look a bit more impressive for larger hulls like bs or bc
Onyx Nyx
The Veldspar Protectorate
#9 - 2012-06-16 14:06:54 UTC
I want a explosion something like the Pepcon disaster.

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Ituhata Saken
Killboard Padding Services
#10 - 2012-06-16 14:09:42 UTC
I agree, but I think alot of the problem stems from what we're used to. Even heavy missiles made some noise off in the distance and torpedoes just had the most amazing resonating sound after explosion, and that shockwave! magnifico!

Dunno if we scaled it back to be more realistic but the sound was fine the old way and the explosions seem underwhelming. If we're going for realism lets remember there is no sound in space and lets start calculating in inertia in space while turning. (Let's see how far away interceptors can get before they finally start moving in the direction they turned! They might be off grid. Lol)

So close...
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#11 - 2012-06-16 14:26:03 UTC
Onyx Nyx wrote:
I want a explosion something like the Pepcon disaster.


Maybe for a shuttle or Pod. Newbie ships should be more impressive.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#12 - 2012-06-16 14:36:11 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Onyx Nyx wrote:
I want a explosion something like the Pepcon disaster.


Maybe for a shuttle or Pod. Newbie ships should be more impressive.



Newbie ships should have Pinata effects added. Little streamers flying out in all directions and maybe firework effects. Big smile

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#13 - 2012-06-16 14:59:25 UTC
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Onyx Nyx wrote:
I want a explosion something like the Pepcon disaster.


Maybe for a shuttle or Pod. Newbie ships should be more impressive.



Newbie ships should have Pinata effects added. Little streamers flying out in all directions and maybe firework effects. Big smile


Isn't that effect more appropriate for industrials and faction battleships?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Sara XIII
The Carnifex Corp
#14 - 2012-06-16 15:04:38 UTC
I picked the green explosion so Joker could successfully fornicate w/ EDI. 
Between Ignorance and Wisdom
Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#15 - 2012-06-16 16:00:33 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Onyx Nyx wrote:
I want a explosion something like the Pepcon disaster.


Maybe for a shuttle or Pod. Newbie ships should be more impressive.



Newbie ships should have Pinata effects added. Little streamers flying out in all directions and maybe firework effects. Big smile


Isn't that effect more appropriate for industrials and faction battleships?



No, they should have showers of these SadSadSadSadSad instead. And maybe fireworks too, but sad ones, like maybe half hearted or something where they just make a wet fart noise.

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#16 - 2012-06-16 16:04:10 UTC
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Onyx Nyx wrote:
I want a explosion something like the Pepcon disaster.


Maybe for a shuttle or Pod. Newbie ships should be more impressive.



Newbie ships should have Pinata effects added. Little streamers flying out in all directions and maybe firework effects. Big smile


Isn't that effect more appropriate for industrials and faction battleships?



No, they should have showers of these SadSadSadSadSad instead. And maybe fireworks too, but sad ones, like maybe half hearted or something where they just make a wet fart noise.


I'd have to turn the sound on for that.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-06-16 17:32:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Simetraz
Solstice Project wrote:
wow, they look like CRAP ! o_O

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLldTqAXIbw

Here. Wing Commander 2. Realtime explosions.
Of course they are low res and not smooth,
but they are done in *realtime* and they actually look like *explosions* !



WOW and here I remember thinking those were REALLY GOOD GRAPHICS back then.
FUnny how times change.

Hmm makes me want to find X-wing and Tie Fighter to see what those look like again.

X-wing vr Tie Fighter click to about 5 min mark

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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#18 - 2012-06-16 18:14:36 UTC
you know i too had a problem with explosions they would never happen at the right time and when they did it was more of a mess then a explosion...

i suggest you take a blue pill next time... that seems to help...

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Jonni Favorite
Red Slice Enterprise
#19 - 2012-06-16 19:59:28 UTC
Simetraz wrote:

Hmm makes me want to find X-wing and Tie Fighter to see what those look like again.

X-wing vr Tie Fighter click to about 5 min mark


Tie fighter were an amazing game, I've been waiting all along for a remake Cry I've also considered replaying the original but I'm afraid I would be utterly disappointed now, just as I was with the you-tube of Wing Commander, which of course was phenomenal back then..
Hiram Alexander
State Reprisal
#20 - 2012-06-16 20:08:22 UTC
I imagine they'll look a sight more intense, if CCP actually completes the teaser they showed of ships exploding with multiple chain-reaction style explosions. If battleships, for example, had three of those in sequence I reckon it'd look pretty 'awesome' ;)
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