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Zo Khamez

Ministry of War

Amarr Empire

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#1 - 2012-06-14 16:42:51 UTC | Edited by: Zo Khamez

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Hi Everyone,

I've recently complete some work to allow me to play EVE Online without actually having to install it on the local computer (because maybe I'm at work or the library, or even from my smart phone)!

The way this works is EVE Online (and I run multiple accounts simultaneously) runs on a powerful server behind the scenes. I browse out to a webpage that the server hosts. It is secured via SSL certificate. I plug in my username and password, and it fires up an EVE Client on the server. The web page then connects to that EVE Client and displays the output from the EVE Client right in the web page. I've solved the bandwidth issues so that EVE Client runs with normal FPS, but I can tell the server only send me x frames each second. When I connect from my smart phone, I may only want to see 1 frame every 3-4 seconds. When I connect from a hotel with a faster connection, I may ask for 10 frames per second. In this way, I can control the amount of bandwidth used so I can still play the game with reasonably good performance.

I am do pretty much anything this way that I can do as if I was sitting at the console directly (manage skill queues, trading, hauling, mining, some lightweight missions / pvp, etc).

I am considering opening this up to the general player base, for a small ISK fee. I know there are players who are not able to log into the client regularly to manage their skill queues (due to military engagements, business travel, vacations, etc). In this case, as long as the player has access to a web browser, this service would allow them to stay connected!

How may people would be interested in this?

Thanks

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Leemi Sobo Likes received: 79	#2 - 2012-06-14 16:52:21 UTC 2 Even if the idea sounds interesting, sending my login data to a 3rd party server isn't an option Leemi

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Lipbite Express Hauler Likes received: 1,909	#3 - 2012-06-14 16:54:00 UTC \| Edited by: Lipbite Very interesting. But giving up account password to 3rd party service is violation of EULA I believe. P.S. Also remote desktop apps.

172.0.0.1 2,274
Azami Nevinyrall 172.0.0.1 Likes received: 2,274	#4 - 2012-06-14 17:01:36 UTC \| Edited by: Azami Nevinyrall Double post...... ...


Zo Khamez Ministry of War Amarr Empire Likes received: 2	#5 - 2012-06-14 17:01:59 UTC Would it still be a violation if the only place you typed the username/password was into the game client itself after it was up and you were connected to it?


Azami Nevinyrall 172.0.0.1 Likes received: 2,274	#6 - 2012-06-14 17:03:18 UTC Providing IRL services for ISK, or ISK for IRL services is against EULA. Also, asking people to send their acct info to a 3rd party...lol You can also do this using your PC with remote desktop software and your smartphone/tablet... ...

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Nebula Terron Wolf's in Sheep's Clothing Likes received: 57	#7 - 2012-06-14 17:04:49 UTC Zo Khamez wrote: Would it still be a violation if the only place you typed the username/password was into the game client itself after it was up and you were connected to it? Petition it and find out. Tell us what they said. Eve Online Forums: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious.

Zo Khamez

Ministry of War

Amarr Empire

Likes received: 2

#8 - 2012-06-14 17:05:10 UTC

Azami Nevinyrall wrote:

Providing IRL services for ISK, or ISK for IRL services is against EULA.

That's not correct. EVE Online allows payment of ISK for out of game services such as website hosting, teamspeak server, etc. These are considered meta-game activities. See this page from their website:

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/How_to_earn_ISK#Metagame_Careers

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Morganta The Greater Goon Likes received: 2,023	#9 - 2012-06-14 17:06:02 UTC also I think your interface to the client violates the EULA

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Widow Cain Likes received: 56	#10 - 2012-06-14 17:07:49 UTC Or you can use an existing technology, you can run on iPad using goto meeting I think. OMG You are sooo pixel macho...

University of Caille Gallente Federation 3,423
ElQuirko University of Caille Gallente Federation Likes received: 3,423	#11 - 2012-06-14 17:15:01 UTC This guy wants yo' passwords. Just sayin'. Dodixie > Hek

Zo Khamez

Ministry of War

Amarr Empire

Likes received: 2

#12 - 2012-06-14 17:15:53 UTC

Morganta wrote:

also I think your interface to the client violates the EULA

I didn't see anything it there... If you look at it this way, CCP (firstly) wants paying subscribers, (secondly) wants those subscribers to remain paying subscribers, and (thirdly) wants those subscribers to be logging into and interacting with the game. The third item is why the Skill Queue is limited to 24 hours. If users have extended periods of absence and cannot queue up enough skills beforehand or manage their skill queue remotely, they may be inclined to suspend their subscriptions, resulting in a loss to CCP (albeit, probably insignificant considering the entire player base). I see this service as helping those players to stay connected with the game, wherever they may be at.

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Natsett Amuinn Caldari Provisions Caldari State Likes received: 2,232	#13 - 2012-06-14 17:16:31 UTC Sounds like you set up an OnLive type service. I can use a remote desktop app on my Ipad to do the same thing, and I don't have to pay anyone isk to do it, let alone give you my account info.

Zo Khamez

Ministry of War

Amarr Empire

Likes received: 2

#14 - 2012-06-14 17:19:29 UTC

Widow Cain wrote:

Or you can use an existing technology, you can run on iPad using goto meeting I think.

There are problems with existing technology. Gotomeeting, logintomypc, etc all will try to keep up with the game's native FPS and the link between you and the game will become saturated with all these graphic updates.

This services allows you to choose the FPS rate that is sent to you over the link. It works very well even over high-latency links (satellite, modem, mobile phones, etc).

Ristlin Wakefield

Viziam

Amarr Empire

Likes received: 406

#15 - 2012-06-14 17:22:48 UTC

Zo Khamez wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I've recently complete some work to allow me to play EVE Online without actually having to install it on the local computer (because maybe I'm at work or the library, or even from my smart phone)!

The way this works is EVE Online (and I run multiple accounts simultaneously) runs on a powerful server behind the scenes. I browse out to a webpage that the server hosts. It is secured via SSL certificate. I plug in my username and password, and it fires up an EVE Client on the server. The web page then connects to that EVE Client and displays the output from the EVE Client right in the web page. I've solved the bandwidth issues so that EVE Client runs with normal FPS, but I can tell the server only send me x frames each second. When I connect from my smart phone, I may only want to see 1 frame every 3-4 seconds. When I connect from a hotel with a faster connection, I may ask for 10 frames per second. In this way, I can control the amount of bandwidth used so I can still play the game with reasonably good performance.

I am do pretty much anything this way that I can do as if I was sitting at the console directly (manage skill queues, trading, hauling, mining, some lightweight missions / pvp, etc).

I am considering opening this up to the general player base, for a small ISK fee. I know there are players who are not able to log into the client regularly to manage their skill queues (due to military engagements, business travel, vacations, etc). In this case, as long as the player has access to a web browser, this service would allow them to stay connected!

How may people would be interested in this?

Thanks

Awesome job setting it up. But as others have stated, there are too many things that would prevent anyone from actually using your service.

I have a lover, her name is EVE. I see her every night and all she asks in return is that I have a pilot's license.


Zo Khamez Ministry of War Amarr Empire Likes received: 2	#16 - 2012-06-14 17:25:51 UTC Natsett Amuinn wrote: Sounds like you set up an OnLive type service. Pretty much. I didn't know about OnLive before your post. I just checked and they don't offer EVE Online there.

Zo Khamez

Ministry of War

Amarr Empire

Likes received: 2

#17 - 2012-06-14 17:29:21 UTC

Ristlin Wakefield wrote:

Zo Khamez wrote:

Awesome job setting it up. But as others have stated, there are too many things that would prevent anyone from actually using your service.

Thanks. That is part of why I posted it here is to get user feedback and wow am I getting it! I never really considered the security issues prior to know because (well frankly) I was the only one using it and it just "worked". :)

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Qolde Comms Black Pandemic Horde Likes received: 193	#18 - 2012-06-14 17:29:21 UTC Release the source code. If someone craps in your sandbox: 1. Light it on fire 2. Grab your shovel 3. Throw it back at them.

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Smegma Cheesedog Doomheim Likes received: 128	#19 - 2012-06-14 17:30:43 UTC OP GOON SCAM ALERT

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Corina Jarr en Welle Shipping Inc. Likes received: 1,380	#20 - 2012-06-14 17:41:49 UTC I can already access my EVE online from any computer, as long as mine is on. A little laggy at times, but meh.