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The new missle effects are great, but . . .
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Jazmyn Stone
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-06-11 20:09:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Jazmyn Stone
. . . some of the placements on the ships are just fail.

The missile battery on the "head" of the Hookbill is stupid, it just shouldn't be there, it doesn't look right. On the the Scorp, four missle batteries on the head? With all the bulk it has better placements that could have been made. Same on the Drake, but I think their location was already cast by it's construction. The missile batteries look like they've been just attached, no continuity. They should have been made as an intergral part of the ship. How the heck to some of these things even get reloaded?

The Manticore with it's missile batteries looks OK. Geez, haven't even looked at the Caracal yet with the new batteries. ( I may have to make an edit).

Anyone else not really satisfied with the placement of these new missile batteries? I think CCP could have done a much much better job!

-Jaz

(I briefly looked for a another post about this, and didn't find one. Am I the only one who feels this way?)

edit: the Caracal doesn't look right either.

Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
Kalli Brixzat
#2 - 2012-06-11 20:15:17 UTC
Jazmyn Stone wrote:
(I briefly looked for a another post about this, and didn't find one. Am I the only one who feels this way?)


Look harder.

And, no, you're not the only knit-picky schmo that feels that way.
Flakey Foont
#3 - 2012-06-12 01:31:38 UTC
Kalli Brixzat wrote:
Jazmyn Stone wrote:
(I briefly looked for a another post about this, and didn't find one. Am I the only one who feels this way?)
schmo



Very underused word!
Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-06-12 03:30:56 UTC
Placements seem fine atleast on the caldari lineup .... especially on drake they are on very logical places.

.... dont tell me you want them all to be "under the wings" like real fighterplanes derpderp.
Otrebla Utrigas
Iberians
#5 - 2012-06-13 08:36:46 UTC
I think you have a misconception here. EVE ships are not planes, are ships, thus the placing of the missile launchers shall (and have) resemblance with real life warships.

For me the drake looks like one of the old soviet missile destroyers with lots of big blocky launchers on each deck.

And the caracal is awesome with the rapid missile launchers.

And don't get me started with the cruises on the scorpion. They look like they should, deep silos attached to the ship.

The only weird placement i can remember is the missiles on the tips of the hawk's wings. Since the base is larger than the tip, they look like they were just glued there. No continuity.

But the rest of the caldari ships look awesome, Kestrel, hookbill, caracal, drake, scorp/raven, nighthawk
Tor Gungnir
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-06-13 08:41:18 UTC
I think the biggest problem is that Light/Rocket Launchers are simply too big for your average Frigate.

Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
Otrebla Utrigas
Iberians
#7 - 2012-06-13 08:43:39 UTC
Tor Gungnir wrote:
I think the biggest problem is that Light/Rocket Launchers are simply too big for your average Frigate.

Don't think so. They fit perfect in the kestrel and the hookbill. Even in the little condor and caldari intys. But the merlin hull has very thin wing tips, and there is where the problem is.

The placements on the main boom for example fit quite well.
Tor Gungnir
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-06-13 08:48:26 UTC
Otrebla Utrigas wrote:
Tor Gungnir wrote:
I think the biggest problem is that Light/Rocket Launchers are simply too big for your average Frigate.

Don't think so. They fit perfect in the kestrel and the hookbill. Even in the little condor and caldari intys. But the merlin hull has very thin wing tips, and there is where the problem is.

The placements on the main boom for example fit quite well.


Try fitting some on a Breacher.

Borderline comical in appearance.

Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
Otrebla Utrigas
Iberians
#9 - 2012-06-13 08:56:09 UTC
Tor Gungnir wrote:
Otrebla Utrigas wrote:
Tor Gungnir wrote:
I think the biggest problem is that Light/Rocket Launchers are simply too big for your average Frigate.

Don't think so. They fit perfect in the kestrel and the hookbill. Even in the little condor and caldari intys. But the merlin hull has very thin wing tips, and there is where the problem is.

The placements on the main boom for example fit quite well.


Try fitting some on a Breacher.

Borderline comical in appearance.

Minmatar ships in general have borderline comical appearance. I mean, they look like Ork vehicles in wh40k, lots of sheets and bolts welded in the weirdest ways possible, keeping together due to sheer luck, duct tape and the pilot will power.

They should be red, since "red goez fastaaaaaaa!!"
Tor Gungnir
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-06-13 08:57:34 UTC
Otrebla Utrigas wrote:
Tor Gungnir wrote:
Otrebla Utrigas wrote:
Tor Gungnir wrote:
I think the biggest problem is that Light/Rocket Launchers are simply too big for your average Frigate.

Don't think so. They fit perfect in the kestrel and the hookbill. Even in the little condor and caldari intys. But the merlin hull has very thin wing tips, and there is where the problem is.

The placements on the main boom for example fit quite well.


Try fitting some on a Breacher.

Borderline comical in appearance.

Minmatar ships in general have borderline comical appearance. I mean, they look like Ork vehicles in wh40k, lots of sheets and bolts welded in the weirdest ways possible, keeping together due to sheer luck, duct tape and the pilot will power.

They should be red, since "red goez fastaaaaaaa!!"


Rifter, arguably the sexiest T1 Frigate in the game, says Hi.

Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
Otrebla Utrigas
Iberians
#11 - 2012-06-13 08:59:57 UTC
Tor Gungnir wrote:
Otrebla Utrigas wrote:
Tor Gungnir wrote:
Otrebla Utrigas wrote:
Tor Gungnir wrote:
I think the biggest problem is that Light/Rocket Launchers are simply too big for your average Frigate.

Don't think so. They fit perfect in the kestrel and the hookbill. Even in the little condor and caldari intys. But the merlin hull has very thin wing tips, and there is where the problem is.

The placements on the main boom for example fit quite well.


Try fitting some on a Breacher.

Borderline comical in appearance.

Minmatar ships in general have borderline comical appearance. I mean, they look like Ork vehicles in wh40k, lots of sheets and bolts welded in the weirdest ways possible, keeping together due to sheer luck, duct tape and the pilot will power.

They should be red, since "red goez fastaaaaaaa!!"


Rifter, arguably the sexiest T1 Frigate in the game, says Hi.

Ok Ok, except the rifter, and maybe the hurricane.

I think the kestrel is sexier, but that is just my opinion :). The rifter is cool nonetheless.
Tor Gungnir
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-06-13 09:03:12 UTC
O RLY?

Say hello to the V3'd Rifter.

Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
Otrebla Utrigas
Iberians
#13 - 2012-06-13 09:07:07 UTC
Tor Gungnir wrote:
O RLY?

Say hello to the V3'd Rifter.

Nice improvement, but I still think the kestrel is sexier (and the manticore way more)

The only bad thing about the kessie is that you can't use it in proper frigate warfare, except for gang DPS.
Cryissa
Caldari Navy Operations
#14 - 2012-06-13 10:13:25 UTC
I like most I see on the new graphics for the modules. Things might get a change here or there in the future.

However it would have been nice to build certain effects from within the wing. I remember the film Firefox and how that looked but of course that was a long time again when I saw that film.

For example why coudn't the Crow have modules built into the wing with the effects of the missles coming out of them front or even back? That migh even have been applied to other ships.

With that said I like the hanges but hope they might get tweaked a bit which I am sure they will do in the future.
Mr Beardsley
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-06-14 16:47:13 UTC
We're worrying about the weapon placement on ships that look like broken appliances, tools and sex toys? With engine placement that would make 90% of them only do barrel roles? Half of them have turrets that fire through each other if their pointing the same direction. EVE is a shining example of why you never let the art department design your machinery.
Unimaginative Guy
Dutch Squad
#16 - 2012-06-15 01:21:29 UTC
Mr Beardsley wrote:
We're worrying about the weapon placement on ships that look like broken appliances, tools and sex toys? With engine placement that would make 90% of them only do barrel roles? Half of them have turrets that fire through each other if their pointing the same direction. EVE is a shining example of why you never let the art department design your machinery.


I dont even what huh
Jazmyn Stone
Perkone
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-06-17 19:40:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Jazmyn Stone
If you've seen the video on the new launchers on the Drake coming soon in an update, you'll see exactly what I'm talking about!

Doesn't matter where the launchers are placed, they should like they are part of the ship! If they look good under the wing, then put them there!

Also, CCP, if a ship has 3 hardpoints, you really don't have to put 6 launchers on the hull of the ship. Once a missile is launched, it can clear the ship (as in RL) and then change direction and head to it's target. I think trying to cram too many launchers onto a ship just doesn't make some ships look right.

But with this new look of the launchers on the Drake, CCP you're looking good too.

-Jaz

Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
Bill Serkoff2
Tachyon Technology
#18 - 2012-06-17 19:51:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Bill Serkoff2
Otrebla Utrigas wrote:
Tor Gungnir wrote:
I think the biggest problem is that Light/Rocket Launchers are simply too big for your average Frigate.

Don't think so. They fit perfect in the kestrel and the hookbill. Even in the little condor and caldari intys. But the merlin hull has very thin wing tips, and there is where the problem is.

The placements on the main boom for example fit quite well.

Rocket launchers fit retardedly on my Jaguar. The models cut into the features on the hull.
Yes, retardedly.

"The Cyclone and the Drake are two ships which will basically never be good for shield tanking, primarily because they have almost no lowslots in addition to shield tanking bonuses. " -Iam Widdershins
Jadalderin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-06-17 20:35:50 UTC
Does anyone else think that the animation for when a torpedo hits a target is just not as exciting as it used to be? I love watching the massive explosion radiate over the target and it gave a feeling satisfied feeling of fire power (Even if the damage inflicted was poor).

I love the new animations but i think they should have kept the one torpedo explosion one in my opinion.
Jayrendo Karr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-06-17 20:45:21 UTC
Condor/hawk



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