Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I'll keep this short;

Miners are the biggest users of jetcans, and use them to increase their cargo capacity beyond the ships original design

The new ships focus on differing cargo capacity depending on which ship you choose to fly

Keeping the current jetcan 'facility' in its current form sidesteps this slightly. The current capacity of jetcans is laughable, being the same no matter what the size of cargohold the originating ship had.

I propose that jetcans be 'shrinkwrapped' to whatever it is being jettisoned, so the size of the jetcan perfectly contains what was jettisoned with no 'extra capacity'.

(Note, i am not campaigning to remove jetcans, or even their use in mining, just the unexplanably large capacity of them)

feel free to discuss

(And no, this wasnt posted in Features and Ideas, because thats where good idea go to die)

Its something that needs changing in my opinion

How do you explain dropping a container out of your Ibis that can contain more than a vanilla Itty 5?

I've always imagined it's not really a "can", but more like a big mylar bag. That's why you have tons of them - they take up no space when folded.

Being mylar-ish, they are fragile and get torn after a short while (2 hours).

I have, but thats beside the point

Maybe read the latest devblog and then work within the limitations of the ship given to you?

edit - also, re-read what i have set out in the original post. your jet can mining will remain if you so wish, just shrinkwrapped to the same size as what you jettison.(..and if this means i have to do the thinking for you, just jettison a can when you are nearly full)

The first step in understanding this is to totally forget about ship tiers. The changes will reflect a balance in the risk/reward in your ship choice

The max yield miners will have the smallest holds, this just means you have to work as a team in moving that ore to an Orca / station. TEAMWORK being the codeword here. Jettison your ore when your cargohold is enarly full and sombody can pick it up, and then repeat ad infinitum until you die from veldpsar exposure.

The retreiver/Mack is going to be the best ship to use if you are a solo operation, requirign less trips to store the ore somewhere.

The procurer/Skiff is going to be for the paranoid

edit

The changes actually make the Covetor a BETTER choice, as it will be available from the instant you train Mining Barge. The perfect choice if you intend to mine in a fleet.

Moved from EVE General Discussion.

Because the ship is meant to be used in groups. You will never have to wait for a new can, because the strip miner cycle time is longer than the can jettison delay (and since it takes two cycles to fill up the ore hold), and you already have a good transfer method called “the Orca”.

no, the way i understand it is that the largest cargo bay amongst the exhumers will be the same as a jetcan, therefore the ship with max yield will have an ore bay smaller than a jetcan, along with the fact that i mine 2+ jetcans at a time means i'll still be jet can mining.

so let's not **** up jet cans please.

The problem with the original post is that the op assumes the only use of jet cans are to dump ore into. There are other uses. During a pos bash in wormhole space, you will often see jet cans used to store ammo. I have seen the same in low sec too. In both cases, the ship dropping off the ammo may be a covert ops hauler, and may make a few trips to a near by station in hi sec it another pos to fill the jet can. The op's proposal would require the yse if multiple cans, when one worked fine.

Additionally, people use jet cans at times to transfer loot. I'm running sites while my partner sets up a pos. I come back to the pos and drop loot in a jet can so I have room for more. I would have to kick out a new jet can each time, cluttering up space.

Or I am in a noctis, salvaging a large mission. I pull the wrecks in, salvage, collect loot, and jet can to hold more. My friend in an industrial ship warps to me, empties the can, leaving 1 item, I keep filling up the same can with what I pull in.

What bothers me on a more personal level is that the op is requesting a mechanic change for asthetic reasons without a full understanding of why jet cans may be used. It's not just for ore and changes shouldn't be made just because one feels the source doesn't make sense.