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New dev blog: EVE updating - Winter expansion 2011

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Arpy Corporation
#341 - 2011-10-06 14:38:31 UTC
Hybrid weapons balancing -


It only took THREE YEARS. Roll
Blackbase Incorporated
#342 - 2011-10-06 14:43:37 UTC
Skill training completed: Gallente Battleship level 5

Now, to remedy the Oxytope prices Twisted


If EVE is real, does that mean all of us are RMTrs?[/b]

Nalha Saldana
The Vomit Comets
#343 - 2011-10-06 14:45:40 UTC
OT Smithers wrote:
spawx wrote:
... so no view for the Missile launchers? damn, all other guns got a 3d view and can be looked at on the ship, no love for caldari ? xD

There is NEVER love for Caldari.

Just wait, the Ferox and Rokh will be awesome ;)
Gallente Federation
#344 - 2011-10-06 14:51:40 UTC
Been playing EVE-ONLINE non-stop since 2006-02-03,

eve was here when a was single,
when i started dating my future wife,
the day before wedding I was playing eve :),
it was there when i got my first baby ( i was willing to get up at night to check forthe baby, but in reality when i was trying to put him to sleep i Had in one arm my baby and in the other i was changing skill / trying other fiting for my brands new ships )
was there When i started my mexican restaurant,
my second kid (he's 3 month)

started has pure gallente , attracted by the gallente ship description : close range brute force !
started to try pvp but at that time CCP started to nerf gallente ....

I started to skill for eos .BANG NERF
went for myrmidon BANG another nerf
at that time deimos, astarte had lot of dps but but was never on killmail because of blasters close range and lack of tracking
then went for nano-ishtar ( back when nano-typhoon were king ) ...but BANG the first nano-nerf !
went for curse BANG no/nuke nerf
then disgusted i said to myself '' ok ccp always nerf the ship I finish to skill so im going to skill for minmatar so the vagabond could be nerfed :) BANG second nano-nerf !
i was thinking of skill for falcon and but i skill other thing and BANG jam nerf :) but this time i diidnt loose skill time :)
so i decided to got for drake so i could be nerfed BUT NO CCP doesnt do anything ! all we see his big blob of drake or vagabond / cyna, minmatar ship

dont forget that I've lost o lot of skilltime !!!

And now if we see a gallente ship on KB its because its dead the guys thought that deimos/ astarte / ishtar going to be helpful but only to get on kb faster in the victim section !

If eve player want to solo pvp just go minmatar BUT dont use gallente because CCP hate them!
Until maybe now ( hybrid weapon balancing) ....

CCP plz im so sick of the passive shield tanking everyone his using the same fit ! LSE , invul Evil

Been 2 year that i dont use my active armor skills and 3-4 that i dont use galente for pvp . i use thanatos to make isk :(

bring back active armor tanking

just read the HELLMAR letter :

before puting new ship why dont you guy's let us play with ALL the ship that we have now buff gallente ceptor, gallente has, battelcruiser ....we need variet
Anatole Papadopoulos
Manboobs in Space
Goonswarm Federation
#345 - 2011-10-06 14:59:00 UTC

Ship Balancing ... why is it everyone seems to think that ‘approximately equivalent’ is good? What’s wrong with distinctly different fighting styles? If one race is supposed to have (for example) a speed bonus on all ships then give them an AWESOME speed bonus. Granted, each of the other races needs an awesome bonus that can counter-punch – but every race doesn’t need an awesome counter-punch bonus for ALL of the other races. What’s wrong with the concept that if you fly a race-x ship you NEVER want to go up against a race-y ship because you’ll get beaten every time? In my opinion, racial ship types should be so distinct that you instantly know what their greatest strength is regardless of their fit or class.
#346 - 2011-10-06 15:01:30 UTC
White Tree wrote:
Hybrid weapons balancing

Your welcome, EVE Online community.

(white tree for csm 7)

Also, been a long time coming this, but good to see it. Got to be a bugger when real life rail-roads you a bit, glad that it was realised rather than the direction continued as it was, coming up 6 years of playing now and don't like anything else on the market currently. I know this cause I started looking recently.

Sometimes "Meh" is an acceptable response.

Kellath Eladrel
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#347 - 2011-10-06 15:07:23 UTC
I started clapping IRL as I read through the list.

Five card stud, nothing wild, and the sky's the limit.

kasai zenpachi
Circle Of Chaos
#348 - 2011-10-06 15:12:45 UTC
First to the CSM thank you for making our feelings known to ccp, you all did great.

and to ccp thank for finally listening it only to took a few years and a few kicks in the family jewels to get your attention but it seems to work.

Anshio Tamark
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#349 - 2011-10-06 15:16:04 UTC
Sounds good to me. I honestly didn't bother reading the hundreds of Forum-posts before this one, so I don't know what people have complained about (if they've complained, that is).

As for the topics listed in Zulu's devblog, the only one that I'm really interested in seeing done properly at the moment is the Assault Ships. I don't have a starbase, I don't use EWAR drones, I have and use the T2 gear I need, I have yet to see a capital ship, I don't participate in FW and I don't use Hybrids. Ergo, those aren't important to me.

As long as CCP doesn't nerf my Hawk, I'm satisfied. Then I couldn't care less about Hybrid guns and Capital ships... And if they nerf Hawks, I can't use that pile of Hawk BPC's I'm working on for anything...

(I wouldn't mind a 3D-model file for Launchers, though. All the guns have models, so why not add for launchers? There are only 8 types of launchers after all...)
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#350 - 2011-10-06 15:17:55 UTC
Good to see a refocus on meaningful content and fixing long time overdue stuff.

Its a start, keep on doing that and you make us happy.
John Nucleus
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#351 - 2011-10-06 15:22:35 UTC
Great stuff!


Add "Energy Weapon Balacing" to the list please.

It makes me sad to fit Gatling Pulse Laser on my punisher in order to have enough PowerGrid for anything else. Medium Pulse Laser are so ridiculously costy. No wonder everyone takes Autocannon instead of lasers...
Gallente Federation
#352 - 2011-10-06 15:59:51 UTC
On the issue of local chat, one compromise/solution I can think of is to make being cut off from local an effect of cloaking.
With the exception of covert ops cloak users (for which getting the jump on enemies is the whole point), my understanding is that other cloak users would give up too much in the way of being able to move/resync times to be able to seriously exploit not appearing in local.
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#353 - 2011-10-06 16:16:35 UTC
It‘s time to get serious about these spaceships.

Arnar Hrafn Gylfason

Senior Producer of EVE Online

Your sudden seriousness may be coming a little to late, lets hope EVE On-a-thin-line will surprise us all.

But seriously, I've really enjoyed my time playing eve, I can say that eve was real to me at many times. And I have found some great friends in this huge community.

In this massive multiplayer online universe , I seek achievement and excitement. But I'm afraid my patience has grown thin as of late....I'm beginning to get withdrawal symptoms and my interests are sparking else where.

CCP, you have till the 20th December to seriously amaze me...

Largo Coronet
Caldari State
#354 - 2011-10-06 16:17:03 UTC
Just to ask about one item on this list:

-->T2 Rigs manufacturing<--

Was there something wrong with it?

As for the rest, I will hold judgement until they are revealed. Sometimes your ideas of "balance" make me suspect you have inner ear trouble.

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#355 - 2011-10-06 16:30:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Grimpak
MeBiatch wrote:
ok how about taking the ship bonus for tracking 7.5% per lev and just make all rails/blasters have 37.5% better base tracking...

furthermore the replaced bonus would be a mass reduction per level... this would add to the replaced fall off bonus...

the concept for blaster i want to see is close range arties... where blasters get a slight base dps boost but get a massive alpha boost... with better base tracking and falloff... even with 50% more falloff you are not shooting that far... take gal from scram range to disrupter range...

plus you have to look at caldari here too and remember their ships are generallly slower then others (even with speed mods)... so you cant just make blasters ultra close range without making caldari fast too... but hell then why not undo the nano nerf? i say eve has evolved and so too should hybrids... blasters will still be balls to the walls omg damage but now they will actually be able to apply it...

I see your point but, I'm more partial to boosting damage by 50% (yes 50%), boosting tracking by... hmm no more than 20%, cut optimal and falloff further so that you can't even scratch paint at ranges above 10km.

this is for the guns only. for the ships, I would've rework them etirely so that they are more nimble than minmatar, but still not as fast. or faster than minmatar but only in a straight line.

your concept of close range arty isn't bad, but I prefer the concept of sawed-off shotguns shooting explosive pellets at ranges closer than point blank.

HOWEVER, it must be said that small hybrids DO NOT need any changes. the frigate-sized blaster platforms are already quite good in all their range, and the rail platforms are also very decent.


[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right

Lex Avril
Tr0pa de elite.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#356 - 2011-10-06 16:31:08 UTC
new captains quarters...


either I missed this spot in the linked video, or I'm surprised to the bones about those 'new' captain quarters, that cannot stand any comparing to throw away freebies in other games.

CCP.... really.... after the word of the CEO to release only what is ready I see now this video linked.
Orion Expeditions
#357 - 2011-10-06 16:51:51 UTC
I'd like to see a bug/fix round instead a expansion and focus (way more) on the client/server performance for once

here a topic from last year
Goonswarm Federation
#358 - 2011-10-06 17:15:31 UTC
I think you guys should look in to moving the Eject button away from the Self Destruct button same as the access storage away from put offline on the POS arrays that are online. It gets kinda hairy when your Crew has been drinking a beer or 2.

Laechyd Eldgorn
Molden Heath Angels
#359 - 2011-10-06 17:37:03 UTC

long list



while those things need addressing i sincerely believe many of use would expect to see something more radical also, especially stuff which would enhance small gang pvp and stuff like that. none of those things on list is going to make my life in eve more interesting tbh.

- hybrids have been asking balancing like forever, especially CALDARI hybrid boats. just look at eagle. nothing new there.
- titans/sc currently are overpowered sure and need nerfbat, but yay nothing new there either. not going to make pvp much more interesting there right away. except for small minority in 0.0 alliances.
- assault ships - who cares
- new drones, rigs whatever - industrial might care


while i feel that those things are more or less important, excuse me while im not celebrating

BC Bombers
#360 - 2011-10-06 17:40:30 UTC
It seems the worm has turned! wahoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo