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Multiboxing Support
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Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#1 - 2012-06-12 00:26:42 UTC
Eve is a game that, as we all know, gives great advantage to multiboxing. And yet I have seen little to no support for it in game, which makes me a little sad.

I know CCP actively encourages people to create alts via the power of two promotion, but I think it would be more effective to add some convenience features for multiboxers.

So, here's my list of stuff I'd like to see:


  1. Shared character wallets, akin to corp wallets but shared for all characters on linked accounts.
  2. Shared station hangars, access to the assets of characters on linked accounts.
  3. APIs that cover all characters on tied accounts.
  4. The ability to merge all character bookmarks, unlike corp bookmarks these would be counted as "personal", but each character would have the same BMs available.


I'm sure there are more, so ill edit and add to the list as things are suggested or as I think of them. I'm also aware CCP had plans for "master accounts", but it seems to be one of the many ideas CCP has for whatever reason forgotten about.

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Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#2 - 2012-06-12 00:29:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Simi Kusoni
Also ofc linking accounts in this way should only be possible through account management, purely for security reasons. And any side effects, such as shared BMs, should either be entirely optional or made very clear to the user.

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Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-06-12 04:50:30 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Eve is a game that, as we all know, gives great advantage to multiboxing. And yet I have seen little to no support for it in game, which makes me a little sad.

I know CCP actively encourages people to create alts via the power of two promotion, but I think it would be more effective to add some convenience features for multiboxers.

So, here's my list of stuff I'd like to see:


  1. Shared character wallets, akin to corp wallets but shared for all characters on linked accounts.
  2. Shared station hangars, access to the assets of characters on linked accounts.
  3. APIs that cover all characters on tied accounts.
  4. The ability to merge all character bookmarks, unlike corp bookmarks these would be counted as "personal", but each character would have the same BMs available.


I'm sure there are more, so ill edit and add to the list as things are suggested or as I think of them. I'm also aware CCP had plans for "master accounts", but it seems to be one of the many ideas CCP has for whatever reason forgotten about.



These things would be very problematic. Merging characters would require fundimental changes to the whole character data base.. and frankly these features aren't that important for multiboxers. In fact, some may be trouble if you decide to sell a character. There are ways to share bookmarks and assets if you create a corp; that's the only thing you really need.

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DitchDigger
Hibi Proletariat
#4 - 2012-06-12 14:16:26 UTC
Barbara Nichole wrote:

These things would be very problematic. Merging characters would require fundimental changes to the whole character data base.. and frankly these features aren't that important for multiboxers. In fact, some may be trouble if you decide to sell a character. There are ways to share bookmarks and assets if you create a corp; that's the only thing you really need.


I don't know that that's true. You just link the inventories of multiple characters together. In the database, they would still each have their own inventory, but would see others stuff and be able to retrieve other's stuff.

Right now the algorithm for station inventory goes something like this:
select all items in station A that belong to character B
The new algorithm would go something like:
Select character B and the set of all characters B1...BN that are linked to character B
select all items in station A that belong to character B, B1...BN

Taking items out of inventory would need a similar check.
Lord Drokoth
Hostile.
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#5 - 2012-06-13 02:17:35 UTC
I used to box 10 tornadoes in nullsec and I can tell you these problems stated above are only the tip of the iceberg.


Imagine configuring 10 clients window positions so that they all match (allowig isboxer to be used)
It takes hours.

Make window posititions, overview settings (yes, all of the settings not just the filters) an all that kind of stuff save able so they can be reset when required.
Would also help a great deal
Daeva Teresa
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-06-13 06:21:59 UTC
For start, account wallet (to share funds with alts on one account) would be nice.

CCP really please dont use Upgraded, Limited, Experimental and Prototype in item names. It sounds like the item is actually worse than basic meta 1 item. Use Calibrated, Enhanced, Optimized and Upgraded. Its really easy to understand that the item is better than meta 1 and its also in alphabetic order.
Lord Drokoth
Hostile.
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#7 - 2012-07-01 09:45:45 UTC
After a bit of time thinking about this in more detail I can say that only a few relatively minor changes would make multiboxing eve a lot less difficult to do.

As mentioned above, the ability to merge character wallets would maybe prove useful, mainly for those who don't have their own corp and therefore can't use it's wallet or asset hangers etc. good for those who are in alliances or larger corps etc. wallet merging would possibly be the more difficult thing to code into eve perhaps.

Also. The problems I and others in the multiboxing community would benefit greatly from a few smaller changes which I'll list below.

1)
The ability to save and export to other accounts, all of the client settings (everything, windows, settings, colours, key bindings, all overview settings and filters and all other settings. Allowing players to make it possible to setup one client. Then export those settings to other active clients (while logged into the char who's settings they will be imported to) so that theycan be made the same without having to repeat it all many times while trying to match them.

2)
The ability to lock every window irrespective of its pin status and lock also the neocon bar and literally every ui feature (totally prevent movement at all while it's turned off) while docked and undocked. Including the overview, drones window etc. I mean everything. Using an option in the esc menu.

3)
The ability to automatically minimise any additional window that is opened so that it only shows on the neocon bar and not the main view. Even with ui scaling. Boxers can misclick sometimes opening stuff we don't want...
Trying to alpha somebody and realising 3 of the clients opened info on the target while shooting it can be rather annoying.

Opinions anyone?
Also. Bump,