EVE General Discussion

If you're interested in the Badger fit: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13531994

The same guy lost a badger not long ago. Carrying an energy neutralizer (neut) in a high slot and a shield booster (SB), so probably the same fit that he used against you. It's completely aimed for combat. Some call it a battle-badger.

Now, let's see what you can do to prepare for the future:

First there is some fairly technical/tedious reading you absolutely have to do:

• Container and Wreck Ownership
• Criminal Flagging System
• Aggression Timer
• Combat Timers
• Kill rights

Try to understand these articles. You probably won't wrap your head around everything on the first pass-through but that's ok - most important is that you know which mechanics exist, knowing exactly how they work is the second step.

Also have a look at

• UniWiki - Timers
• UniWiki - Aggression Details
• UniWiki - Aggression 101

Next, you always should fit some sort of tank on your ships.
All of your ships except for the Osprey were completely untanked and the Osprey's shield booster was undersized (made for frigates, not cruisers).
Fitting theory is a pretty big topic of its own and there is an entire subforum devoted to it (this site lists a lot of guides and you should probably read some of them).

However the three basic rules for good fittings are
(a) no empty slots - almost anything you can put in the slot will be better than leaving it empty
(b) if you undock to fight, don't have modules fitted that are not useful for fighting (e.g. Survey Scanner or mining lasers)
(c) use modules of the appropriate size - if you can't fit them it's a strong sign that you have to train some support skills (e.g. Engineering, Electronics, Weapon Upgrades, ...) before using that ship.
Frigate/Destroyer - small modules
Cruiser/Battlecruiser - medium modules
Battleship - large modules
Don't fit a small shield booster on a Cruiser or medium guns on a battleship.

You have a lot to learn and some of that will inevitably be through reading OOG sites as the in-game tutorial system does a bad job at explaining important game mechanics.

It might be worth putting your own corp on ice for a bit and joining EVE University as they specialize in teaching these things to new players It's great to have some experienced players who explain to you the basic concepts and that can answer your questions directly - instead of learning solely by trial & error or by reading OOG websites.

I'm not posting this thread for pity. I'm posting it because the guy who pulled it off did it amazingly quick.

CSB V____V

So today me and my corporation were mining some Omber out at Abudba or whatever, and we were storing out stuff inside a jetisson canister.

While my friend who took the cargo to and from the dock was making some coffee, I and the Corporation leader had gotten the canister 9000 units full. While my coffee break friend wasn't doing anything, I told him in the chat to take out the ore. So he did, but he could on'y carry 5600 units. Somehow, the rest dissapeared.

A few seconds later, I notice that there's a red square, and I realize that that person was responsible for the missing ore, which I didn't really mind, but I asked my friend if I was allowed to whoop him with my guns.

My friend was sure I was allowed to without penalty so we both went to strike him. When I saw the enemy's shields on the hud, I knew I was doing large amounts of damage with my noob gatling guns, (My friend was doing more than me).

For some reason the shield of the ship healed all the way up in a split second, then the opponent shot us with a rainbow looking zapping thing I couldn't make out. I thought it was badass. So I warped away since my friend gave in and knew he wouldn't make it. We were sure it was a Vega(badger) version ship.

But for some reason the guy wouldn't back off of us for 2 hours. It was rediculous. We both got destroyed by him, and I'm sure that somehow he hadn't hit him at all, it had to have been the security NPCS that blew him to parts in a split second.

It wasn't the best of times, but it was different. It's my 3rd day of playing. And we lost some good isk with that being said.

Oh well, we'll work through.

We are still tryingto assemble our corporation, there's only 6 of us, and we need some good reliable people.

Can baiting a 3-day old character... Quality Isn't that a bannable offence?

Which is such a barmy mechanic.

If anybody steals something in high sec, any response by the victim should not be counted as "aggression", on the contrary theft is itself the initiation of aggression, and it should give the victim the right to shoot at the thief with impunity, and also bring down CONCORD (albeit on a slower timer than would normally occur for violent initiation of aggression), who should scram and web the thief, and return the stolen goods to the victim.

The initiation of aggression was the theft.

However, a thief should be able to escape with the stolen goods - if they're fast enough.

The whole notion of "can flipping" is a jarring absurdity in a "high security" system that's supposed to be "policed".

Stealing is not the same as shooting.