EVE General Discussion

It's interesting that most advices like this one always comes from those who already is living in null-sec.

These are improvements/changes that is suggested in order to improve the gameplay for those already interested in what null-sec has to offer.

None of these changes would make any difference to me. Most of people populating hi-sec are either carebears, industrialists, traders or solo mission-runners for NPC corps, or any kind of combination of the four.

As it is now, null-sec caters for a very narrow audience: People in player corporations that are into high-risk PvP and player driven content. I have been to null sec several times, but there is so little going on there for solo players except the occasional encounter with gate campers or whatever.

So either you 1.) accept that most people are not into this stuff, and realize that null-sec is never going to be for the masses, and don't expect the population to grow significantly (removing local that everyone is nagging about will make a marginal difference, believe me). Or, you could 2.) accept some fundamental structural changes that will attract any type of player to try out life in null-sec. What those changes could possibly be, I haven't thought through yet, but if it's anyone CCP shouldn't listen to in order to increase population there, it's those who already thrive in null-sec.

They did not have a 0.0 Jita, much less a 0.0 Jita that would be negotiated as "no killing zone" (within constraints of course) between major alliance.

What? Your reply makes no sense to me, please express yourself in a clearer way. CVA opened their stations for neutrals (ie. almost everyone) and actively hunted anyone that tried shooting non-consenting people in their space. At the same time, Providence was scarcely involved in any sovereignty warfare and was thusly mostly absolved of all the associated hassle. With a direct high sec - 0.0. entrance it was an ideal stepping ground for anyone trying to get their feet wet in null. What more could you possibly want? Sure it wasn't 100% safe, but you can't make null safe no matter how hard you try. And they tried a lot.

By the way, a certain low flying null entity called Goonswarm tried to do a similar thing in Delve not too long ago. It didn't work, the other powers in the area didn't quite cooperate. Another recent example is Chribba holding a neutral trade hub in Providence. There are people trying to make such ideas work.

It would make it much more possible to sneak in and start making your own thing in a remote part of space even with major alliances hogging space like they do today. The free intel you get from the current system makes pretty much any kind of activity, except ninja ratting, virtually impossible even if the alliance have not had people in that said system for weeks.

Right now you dont need to patrol you area to check for intruders... the current automatic information mail does that for you... witout fail 23.5/7.

I can definitly imagine a bunch of smaller corps getting out into nullsec to do a bit of corp PvE if they could, but with the current system its not exactly an option...so why not join one of the large alliances then? Well, simply because then you are part of the everyday nullsec political bullcrap where you either log into one of the daily CTA fleets or you get kicked out for not doing your part.

So in a way nullsec space is being killed by the very people that live there. And the way things are right now with the crazy idiotic SOV changes and current SCBlob Online its virtually impossible for any kind of outsider to break into just about any part of space...

I could add another change too... make it impossible to set corps to blue. Either you are in an alliance or you are not, not the current NAP all over that is.

Easier just to hit the "reset button" - I figure it would work for about 3 weeks before it started stagnating again..




Things like this is what makes me say "why the f should I bother".

Listen, it's not the "hi-sec'ers" clamoring for for people to leave hi-sec...


dolt.

So your idea to bring players to null-sec is to have NPCs do HSCB guided tours of null-sec?

Because players aren't more compelling than coded responses after all?

This is so terrible. Anybody who posts something like this should honestly feel bad. How about we turn it around?

Once a week, a pirate faction opens a gate into high-sec. On the other end we'll put a 5AU bubble where CONCORD cannot spawn. Anyone lucky enough to warp in gets a sample of what null-sec is like. Anybody trying to pew pew outside the bubble will still be subject to CONCORD, though.

Do you see how terribly intrusive and unnatural this idea is when we turn it around? Do you want your home to be the venue for NPC guided tours of Eve?

We can bring points for that. And instaHICs with the script.

Nobody wants to be accused of getting all these kills 'free.'

OMG, the stupid, it has gone over 9000 with this post alone.

Yes, and you bring so much more to the table. Obvious troll is obvious.

If I am still anywhere, (apart from my grave) in 2050, I shall be somewhat surprised and would play Eve just to celebrate