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BeforetheStorm90
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2012-06-10 02:05:58 UTC
Disregard That wrote:
BeforetheStorm90 wrote:
And you're not using Void on T2 blasters because............. maybe you are stuck in the past? Void is actually pretty good now. And T2 rigs? Really? On a T1 BC? Wow. Even more shocking when you realize that a T1 nanobot accelerator and a T1 nano pump is almost just as effective (though admittedly it'll hurt your cap more, but that really shouldn't be the concern when you're thinking about adding 80+ mil to the cost of a T1 battlecruiser). Yep, this thread is so full of win...........

He doesn't even have blasters fitted.

Those are freaking railguns.


What?

Vincent Wright wrote:
PvE all Skills V

Full "Gallente" Close Range fit Myrmidon:

[Myrmidon, "Gallente"]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Heavy Ion Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II


Hammerhead II x2
Hobgoblin II x1
Ogre II x2

NUMBERS: 26.9k Effective HP, 190 Armor/s, Cap lasts 2m/ stable at 50% without MWD on, 1011m/s, 756 DPS



I'll be honest, really didn't think I would have to argue that Heavy Ion Blaster IIs are in fact blasters.

In fact, him fitting blasters to a pve myrm is another of his failures. I just didn't remark upon it because I think its already been mentioned at least once. I tried to cover what had not been yet mentioned.
Disregard That
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2012-06-10 02:10:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Disregard That
Vincent Wright wrote:
Disregard That wrote:
Vincent Wright wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
I don't know what you're smoking or what PvE you plan to do with a short range non-capstable Myrm setup. I don't fly Myrm in PvE, but would seriously recommend trying this instead:

Quote:

[Myrmidon, Doing Drones Right, Fool]

Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

10MN Afterburner II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

200mm Railgun II, Spike M
200mm Railgun II, Spike M
200mm Railgun II, Spike M
200mm Railgun II, Spike M
200mm Railgun II, Spike M
200mm Railgun II, Spike M

Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I


Curator II x3
Hammerhead II x5
Warrior II x5


More tank (active tank, sig tank, range tank), more range flexibility, actually cap stable, and does not make you look like an utter fool who tries to max out paper DPS.


oh wow there is longrange guns? ...
no srsly dude cmon thats not the point .

Which one?


that a myrmidon fares better with a shield tank and minmatar weopons then with armor tank and gallente weapons is that so hard to understand?


EDIT:
I've noticed in this quote, as seen on the first page, that this poster is using rails.

I stand corrected.
BeforetheStorm90
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2012-06-10 02:32:31 UTC
Disregard That wrote:


EDIT:
I've noticed in this quote, as seen on the first page, that this poster is using rails.

I stand corrected.


Quite alright, it happens.

Clearly this thread is just a horrible case of an EFT warrior not having much of real game experience and unintentionally spreading misinformation on to the forums. OP do your self (and everyone else) a massive favor, leave your quaint npc corp and find a true, competent, new player friendly, player run corp. That, I believe, is your best shot in learning how to truly play this game.

Naturally, this is not possible if the NPC corp OP is merely an alt. I feel that this is quite a common event, so I will leave a suggestion for that possibility as well. OP, if this is indeed the case, I would suggest leaving your current corp and finding a corp better suited to training one such as yourself.
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#24 - 2012-06-10 03:03:21 UTC
Hahaha a Myrm with not autocannons.
No More Heroes
Boomer Humor
Snuffed Out
#25 - 2012-06-10 03:10:20 UTC
Gas thread and ban OP

.
WolfeReign
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-06-10 04:10:40 UTC
You're complaining about the myrmidon, which is a beast!, when there are ships out there like the Eagle
Uinuva Karma
Doomheim
#27 - 2012-06-10 04:14:44 UTC
Do you really think anyone cares about your ridiculous carebear fits?

Myrmidon is one of the best solo ships.

Also, you don't really know anything about drone boats, do you?

Captain Kirk didn't stay in hisec. 
Copine Callmeknau
Callmeknau Holdings
#28 - 2012-06-10 04:24:16 UTC
Comparing 425mm AC with multiple damage mods to Ion blasters with no damage mods, then claiming blasters suck because the 425 do more damage,

You are a fuckin idiot
Go play in traffic

There should be a rather awesome pic here
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2012-06-10 05:07:43 UTC
Vincent Wright wrote:


that a myrmidon fares better with a shield tank and minmatar weopons then with armor tank and gallente weapons is that so hard to understand?



You should try like flying these ships.


......and you think a Myrm is better than a Domi what the, I don't even.
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
#30 - 2012-06-10 05:19:32 UTC
I think the main issue is you wont get the same numbers on a PVP fit for the shield setup, making the armor myrm usually the best choice.
Vincent Wright
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2012-06-10 12:32:51 UTC
BeforetheStorm90 wrote:
And you're not using Void on T2 blasters because............. maybe you are stuck in the past? Void is actually pretty good now. And T2 rigs? Really? On a T1 BC? Wow. Even more shocking when you realize that a T1 nanobot accelerator and a T1 nano pump is almost just as effective (though admittedly it'll hurt your cap more, but that really shouldn't be the concern when you're thinking about adding 80+ mil to the cost of a T1 battlecruiser). Yep, this thread is so full of win...........


the numbers were with void.
idk whay the anti was still in there sry.

cap is an issue ofc.

and we are talking PvE so cost must be hanled differently then in pvp
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#32 - 2012-06-10 12:42:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Oh hi there.

I see you have met the Myrmidon.

It's the battlecruiser equivalent to the Dominix — the most versatile battleship in the game. This makes the Myrm the most versatile battlecruiser in the game. This means you can fit it in roughly eighy bazillion different ways, each with its own benefits and drawbacks. None of them is “right“ and none of them are “wrong” (unless you choose a fit without any drones — that's just bad and wrong… and stupid).
Vincent Wright
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2012-06-10 12:47:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Vincent Wright
this is for PvE (for the dude with the neuting a scorp)
i actually fly myrm, i know how to fit a myrm, i use a rail dual rep myrm (used artys -> higher defence though not needed) for PvE and will use a triple or dual rep AC myrm for pvp.

still no one seems to get the point made.
both of those fits are the best possible fits of the described circumstances.
better blasters require too much pg to fit them on the myrm with a dual rep setup.
i tried to make them as equal as possible and then shield/AC just exceld in almost every aspect.

btw shield tanked myrm will also excel in long range PvE because a shield tank has a lot more spare lows to fit drone damage augmentors and weapon damage augmentors.
one of the points is: the new drone module favors shield tanked ships for pve when the signature drone race is associated with armor tanks and thats the reason gila and rattlesnake are the best PvE droneboats around

its just that the game misleads new players into things it really shouldnt have to.
i just wanted to point out a flawed game design.
Vincent Wright
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2012-06-10 12:50:27 UTC
oh and did i mention its PvE?
Phill Esteen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2012-06-10 12:52:22 UTC
Vincent Wright wrote:
190 Armor/s


no.

– postum faex est – 

never forget
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#36 - 2012-06-10 12:53:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Vincent Wright wrote:
one of the points is: the new drone module favors shield tanked ships for pved
The drone damage augmentors favour shield tanked ships the same way all weapon mods favour shield tanks.

PvE or PvP makes no difference. That's just how damage mods work.

Oh, and Ishtar > Gila.
Vincent Wright
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2012-06-10 12:56:14 UTC
Phill Esteen wrote:
Vincent Wright wrote:
190 Armor/s


no.


oh sry its actually 179 with 335 overheat.
Phill Esteen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2012-06-10 13:00:28 UTC
Vincent Wright wrote:
Phill Esteen wrote:
Vincent Wright wrote:
190 Armor/s


no.


oh sry its actually 179 with 335 overheat.


you are terrible

– postum faex est – 

never forget
Vincent Wright
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2012-06-10 13:03:00 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Vincent Wright wrote:
one of the points is: the new drone module favors shield tanked ships for pved
The drone damage augmentors favour shield tanked ships the same way all weapon mods favour shield tanks.

PvE or PvP makes no difference. That's just how damage mods work.

Oh, and Ishtar > Gila.


okay so we can all agree to shield tank being superior for PvE right?

for PvE 25% shield rez is the only thing that sepperates the two
Vincent Wright
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2012-06-10 13:04:16 UTC
Phill Esteen wrote:
Vincent Wright wrote:
Phill Esteen wrote:
Vincent Wright wrote:
190 Armor/s


no.


oh sry its actually 179 with 335 overheat.


you are terrible


but you understand thats even less?
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