EVE General Discussion

Hi all,

I have heard on the rumor mill that CCP are continuing to get up of their arses and get to work on improving EVE.

I am hoping this work includes bug fixes as well as default improvements for many things (like T3 ship subsystem changes in space, WiS etc)

So what do you think should be the focus of CCPs efforts in the EVE universe?

That is for sure.

@Op, you're just another entity that finds it easy, glib even, to be disrespectful and in doing so, you think that everyone else will follow your opinion. It doesn't work that way. The fact is that CCP are hard at work on numerous fronts in order to remain competitive and afloat as a company. There will be bugs, there will always be bugs. That's all you see though, you're not prepared to say anything positive about anything you can do, right now, in this game.

Always the negative, never able to come-up with workable ideas and suggestions, in their correct context and forums.

Nothing new here.

I think the GD forums need a buff, To many posters staying safe and lazy in those other forums, we need to nerf their forums and force them in here

Tal

Believe it when i see it. past 2 majour expansions have caused alot of upset. The testing the water for a pay to play MMO but with the "option tm" of microtransactions....

hmm going by the track record, not looking promising

The game is actually terrible. Downright utterly terrible when you break things down. However CCP has been able to make it just good enough and have had a lack of competition to survive and expand.

The reason I say its terrible is for the following reasons:

-UI is and has always been horribly ugly and click fest to do anything. The visual aspects have improved on some parts but things like the market, overview, assets, manufacturing/invention, POS manager, Directional are still horrible. The functionality on the latter is decent where the former is worse off even with the visual improvements.

-Movement/Combat is very stale, target then orbit then F1. Its really basic though that's somewhat to be expected from the design they chose to go. The point to point system is also another terrible thing but again its part of the path they chose.

-PVE. Its crap, it's boring, it's really just a means to an end. Now I know people will hurf derf about this being a PVP based game, however PVE is the base of any game whether PVP or PVE. You need to fund the PVP somehow right?

-Performance has always been a losing battle, this is somewhat to be expected when doing a single sharded non instanced MMO. They have gotten better at controlling it but still a major flaw.

-Lack of dynamics in EVE. Meaning other then SOV in null/FW nothing really changes in New Eden. No player action actually directly effects the universe as a whole, it just effects individuals. Kind of throws the whole sandbox ideology out the window a bit.

-From a developers standpoint there's a sever lack of direction. While CCP has a overall vision of a grand universe, but their expansion to expansion direction seems to be random, and very little thought into what should or needs to be done. It almost seems as if they just randomly pick **** out of a hat and decide to add it in.

-Not to mention bugs(that have been around for years), poor executions of expansion/patch releases, at times poor customer support and poor moderation, T20, Boot.ini, Incarna, etc.

I could go on but I feel dirty just posting all that.

Edit: Just realized the grammar is crap, but I don't feel like fixing it. So deal with it.

The simple fact we as paying customers are beta testers for released content permanently broken tells a lot how stupid we are.

CCP wouldn't loose much of their pride if they gave us 6 free sub months for such passionate support of all this beta thing

+1 for the broken content, but i think CCP are victims of their own success here; they have a strict update schedule with two expansions per year. i think it is a very steep hill to climb to justify releasing any new content outside those periods.

That said, the numerous 'patches' coming out do follow up on these very well. One example of this is the V3 and we will see the Minmatar V3 applied next week i think it is.

There is also a matter of how big some projects are, like WiS... that was definitely broken upon release no matter how long it has been in the works for, or the release date. it never should have been released as it was (each faction station should have been represented as CQs) and should have been staggered from the SM3 update as well.

I think Incursions should be swapped out for something else too, or expanded upon. Having some other pirate factions represented could make things more interesting.

0.0 space should be looked at in the context of adding new constellations or systems designed for newbies and smaller alliances or individual corps, something between proper sov and NPC space.

To sum up, there are some good and bad examples of 'The big stuff':
- Incursions. These were done right the first time and are/were awesome
- T3's. Mostly done right but the fact the subsystems can't be swapped out in space for whatever reason is a big problem. If T3's had been released with this feature, then they would be that much more awesome.
- WiS. This really felt like someone had come into the coding room and asked what the coders had for WiS. The coders said 'oh not much', so that someone said 'Good, release it'. Very bad.
- Sov changes in 0.0. This was done as a complete package and is overall very good.
- WH's. I think since Apocrypha was released they have had virtually no changes except for one or two minor ones. One of the best things in EVE, it was released properly.

CCPalways tried to do their best, but with such large number of players and with such huge diversity in playing styles it is almost impossible to satisfy everybody
Tthe content they add doesn't always please me but others disagree with me and on other expansions it is vice versa and indeed they did got the ball wrong a few times and released some content that wasn't really ready, but overall i think they have a good crew that tries hard to satisfy all of us
remember it is our money that pays their wages

Well you actually took the fast easy road to post something. I've been in these forums and SISI for a few years now (not always with this char) and have a much better approach of how useful feedback is in these forums than you seem to have or ever will.

Try again.

Wow. You must be a real joy to live with.