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CCP: Basically puts EVE on backburner - to launch DUST514.

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Andrea Griffin
#21 - 2012-06-08 03:38:32 UTC
Yeah, I heard that all development in Eve will stop now because literally all efforts are being put into Dust.

We don't have forum moderators or anything anymore, and even Tuxford isn't around to restart the production servers in the middle of the day. Even Hilmar is in the trenches doing Quality Assurance work and a little polishing of the gun textures. No longer will Soundwave grace us, for he's now writing copy for Dust advertisements, and Sreegs is putting his security skills to work to ensure Dust doesn't have any mining bots.

Or maybe you're just trolling, because nobody can really be that stupid.

CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer.
0ccupy 4-4
Doomheim
#22 - 2012-06-08 03:40:16 UTC
Marcus Ichiro wrote:
And would you rather them not put their resources into Dust and risk it becoming a failure both financially and quality-wise?



I'd rather them make EVE their number one priority.

Marcus Ichiro wrote:
I really don't get what you're trying to say, even the highlighted part of your quote doesn't actually say that they're making Dust the main priority.


Not a surprise
strikethree
Purple Passion Procurements
#23 - 2012-06-08 04:20:22 UTC
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:
So a letter from CCP's Chris McDonough states that CCP has pretty much put all their resources now into Dust514. This is what I was saying in an earlier thread, that EVE is no longer CCP's main concern, that Dust514 is and it will be that way for sometime to come. They won't launch it and leave it hanging. They'll continue to put all their efforts into making Dust514 a success. To do this, means that EVE is no longer their #1 priority.

Here is a quote from Chris McDonough letter to members of Mind's Eye Society, fans of World of Darkness.

Quote:
As many of you know, last year was difficult for CCP, and many long-term employees and good friends lost their positions within our organization. The company felt it had too many priorities and was trying to do too many things. World of Darkness is still very much in active development, but CCP as a company will be putting all of its efforts into making DUST 514 a revolutionary game and bringing it to market.


Here is a link to his letter.

http://www.mindseyesociety.org/2012/06/open-letter-from-ccp/#more-1359

My previous thread was locked and I was told I needed a better grapevine. Well this is straight from Chris McDonough of CCP.



Oh dear, you failed again. Your grapevines are ok this time, its just that you are examining the little dead bits at the tips, rather than the trunk or roots. The funding that would have gone to WoD, money that was already allocated, is now being funnelled in to DUST514, so as not to take money away from EVE. If you had bothered to do even the smallest amount of decent research you may have found this for yourself.


Oh, I am sorry, I guess reading the words... "but CCP as a company will be putting all of its efforts into making DUST 514 a revolutionary game..." means something totally different?


When taken out of context, yes. For example, let's say I am talking about low-sec. It would then be valid for me to say something like: There are pirates everywhere! Oh my god! There is nowhere I can go to escape them.

Now of course, we all know that I can go to highsec so using absolute terms like "everywhere" and "nowhere" are lies... but they are true within the context of which I uttered them. Well, actually, you are not purely safe from pirates in highsec either but surely you see my point?
Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2012-06-08 04:39:27 UTC
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:
So a letter from CCP's Chris McDonough states that CCP has pretty much put all their resources now into Dust514. This is what I was saying in an earlier thread, that EVE is no longer CCP's main concern, that Dust514 is and it will be that way for sometime to come. They won't launch it and leave it hanging. They'll continue to put all their efforts into making Dust514 a success. To do this, means that EVE is no longer their #1 priority.

Here is a quote from Chris McDonough letter to members of Mind's Eye Society, fans of World of Darkness.

Quote:
As many of you know, last year was difficult for CCP, and many long-term employees and good friends lost their positions within our organization. The company felt it had too many priorities and was trying to do too many things. World of Darkness is still very much in active development, but CCP as a company will be putting all of its efforts into making DUST 514 a revolutionary game and bringing it to market.


Here is a link to his letter.

http://www.mindseyesociety.org/2012/06/open-letter-from-ccp/#more-1359

My previous thread was locked and I was told I needed a better grapevine. Well this is straight from Chris McDonough of CCP.



is there a point to your post?

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Peta Michalek
Doomheim
#25 - 2012-06-08 05:09:35 UTC
...wasn't it always on afterburner?
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-06-08 05:17:53 UTC
You had to read a letter to understand that?

You mean that you didn't get it when fanfest 2012 was primarilly focussed on dust? When some of the CCP devs at fanfest said that fanfest was primarilly focused on dust that wasn't a clue either?


Dust is an extensioin of EVE. People complain that they want CCP to add more content to FiS, dust is doing that, and then people complain that most of their focus is on a new game they're about to release.

Some of you people make zero sense.
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#27 - 2012-06-08 05:22:26 UTC
i love it when people take things out of context and present it as 'the truth'. What?
Saia Tae Arragosa
Doomheim
#28 - 2012-06-08 07:02:02 UTC
Sorry if I seem a little moody when it comes to this, but in all honest, after the stuff CCP pulled last year, is there anyone here that can say without any doubt whatsoever, that CCP is completely going to look at the players of EVE with their(the players) best interest in mind?

Look at what they delivered with Inferno. The Merc Market is nothing more than a button. Though new Inventory system, though a good start, was not completely ready to be launched. The missile trails though nice were not properly optimized causing many peoples systems to freeze up or see a massive drop in FPS. They over nerfed Incursions.

I am a paying customer of EVE and I just want to know that the game I am playing and paying for is not going to be play second fiddle to a game I am not playing - made by the same company. Is it wrong to be concerned and to be re-assured that CCP is as dedicated to EVE as they are to any of their assets?
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#29 - 2012-06-08 07:06:05 UTC
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:
All I want from CCP is re-assurance that EVE will not be delegated to a small team. If that is the case. I'll save my money and wait for EVE to be their top priority again.



Please do?

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Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2012-06-08 07:10:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Mortimer Civeri
Oh hey, lets pull meaning out of a newsletter/press release, with semantic gymnastics, and jumping to conclusions.Roll

"I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
Saia Tae Arragosa
Doomheim
#31 - 2012-06-08 07:10:26 UTC
Ciar Meara wrote:
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:
All I want from CCP is re-assurance that EVE will not be delegated to a small team. If that is the case. I'll save my money and wait for EVE to be their top priority again.



Please do?


Awww...is that all you can think of saying. Boring.
Saia Tae Arragosa
Doomheim
#32 - 2012-06-08 07:12:14 UTC
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
Oh hey, lets pull meaning out of a newsletter/press release, by semantic gymnastics and jumping to conclusions.Roll


Nobody is jumping to any conclusions. Those were his words. You've seen what Inferno delivered. We know CCP's past. All I am saying is - tell us differently CCP.
Disregard That
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2012-06-08 08:15:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Disregard That
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
Oh hey, lets pull meaning out of a newsletter/press release, by semantic gymnastics and jumping to conclusions.Roll


Nobody is jumping to any conclusions. Those were his words. You've seen what Inferno delivered. We know CCP's past. All I am saying is - tell us differently CCP.

Here's a thing.

Eve will be getting the Dust 514 link and orbital bombardment.

The rich complexities these features will bring to Eve far outstrip the content I happen to know you support development of over flying in space.

Trying to say Eve won't be developed or iterated due to a related product doesn't seem very productive, Saia Tae Arragosa.

Do you have any ideas of things CCP can do to improve their efficiency at deploying this product that will directly tie into Eve?

In fact, do you have any constructive insights whatsoever that are not completely at odds with the direction CCP is moving with their IP and products?
Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#34 - 2012-06-08 13:46:06 UTC
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
Oh hey, lets pull meaning out of a newsletter/press release, by semantic gymnastics and jumping to conclusions.Roll


Nobody is jumping to any conclusions. Those were his words. You've seen what Inferno delivered. We know CCP's past. All I am saying is - tell us differently CCP.



They already did, when Hilmar had to write an apology letter to everyone, remember that? Stop bleating on about it over and over and over again, and go do some proper research for god sake.

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
#35 - 2012-06-08 14:21:46 UTC
Disregard That wrote:
Here's a thing.

Eve will be getting the Dust 514 link and orbital bombardment.


Please explain why orbital bombardments that you cannot witness for yourself on targets you had no hand in taking down, is a good thing.

Disregard That wrote:
The rich complexities these features will bring to Eve far outstrip the content I happen to know you support development of over flying in space.


I see nothing complex about having another button to push. Please explain.

Disregard That wrote:
Trying to say Eve won't be developed or iterated due to a related product doesn't seem very productive, Saia Tae Arragosa.


Perhaps, but which is more important to CCP? Dust or EVE?

It would be easy for someone to answer something like: "they are going to be one and the same and therefore are equally important" which is an illogical answer.

EVE can exist without Dust and has done for nearly ten years, and I see nothing revolutionary, inventive, ingenius or even basically original about Dust - and if the only practicable element about it is the orbital bombardment, then answer my question above.

Oh, and if you want questions to ask CCP - see my post here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=536029#post536029 from last year that no one has answered, and is incapable of answering, which is partially why I asked the questions in the first place.

That's kinda what I can be like some days; someone who asks questions they either already know the answer to, or that knows the other person cannot answer them purely to let their illogical nature overwhelm them.

Lastly, I really do not think playstation3/non-pc/non-EVE people should be allowed to Fanfest, but I'll bet they will be invited for $ or will have their own event in Iceland and WE shall not be invited.

Do you kinda get where this is going yet?

AK

This space for rent.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#36 - 2012-06-08 14:28:51 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
You mean that you didn't get it when fanfest 2012 was primarilly focussed on dust? When some of the CCP devs at fanfest said that fanfest was primarilly focused on dust that wasn't a clue either?
Yes, one day out of three, and 9 sessions out of 80, means that fanfest had Dust as its primary focus… Roll
Widow Cain
#37 - 2012-06-08 14:29:24 UTC
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:
So a letter from CCP's Chris McDonough states that CCP has pretty much put all their resources now into Dust514. This is what I was saying in an earlier thread, that EVE is no longer CCP's main concern, that Dust514 is and it will be that way for sometime to come. They won't launch it and leave it hanging. They'll continue to put all their efforts into making Dust514 a success. To do this, means that EVE is no longer their #1 priority.

Here is a quote from Chris McDonough letter to members of Mind's Eye Society, fans of World of Darkness.

Quote:
As many of you know, last year was difficult for CCP, and many long-term employees and good friends lost their positions within our organization. The company felt it had too many priorities and was trying to do too many things. World of Darkness is still very much in active development, but CCP as a company will be putting all of its efforts into making DUST 514 a revolutionary game and bringing it to market.


Here is a link to his letter.

http://www.mindseyesociety.org/2012/06/open-letter-from-ccp/#more-1359

My previous thread was locked and I was told I needed a better grapevine. Well this is straight from Chris McDonough of CCP.


It is called an I N V E S T M E N T

Grow up.

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Benilopax
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2012-06-08 14:48:45 UTC
One word...

CONTEXT

Who is that letter addressed to?

What is the letter trying to say to that group of people?

CCP are basically saying to the WoD community, sorry you got screwed but our bungled Incarna release means we have to concentrate on EVE/DUST right now.

Also if you look at the E3 Dust 514 trailer the new logo actually reads EVE: DUST 514, they are one in the same.

...
Alexandra Delarge
The Korova
#39 - 2012-06-08 14:50:50 UTC
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:

My previous thread was locked and I was told I needed a better grapevine. Well this is straight from Chris McDonough of CCP.

Lol
CCP Navigator
C C P
C C P Alliance
#40 - 2012-06-08 15:42:03 UTC
My previous thread was locked and I was told I needed a better grapevine. Well this is straight from Chris McDonough of CCP.[/quote]

I am only leaving this part in as this is the most important:

As per CCP Navigator of CCP we can assure you that our commitment to EVE is unwavering as can be demonstrated in the Crucible and Inferno releases. Our Shanghai office is, naturally, working hard on polishing Dust 514 and assisting players with the beta which is underway.

Taking a quote to start a thread of 'the sky is falling' rumor-mongering is not going to fly.

Locked, and if you like posting here, you will not make it again.
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