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Malphilos
State War Academy
Caldari State
#41 - 2012-06-08 00:55:12 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:
.... it would require you to form real connections with other people ...


... like you.

That's what drives me off every time.

You are not, and I repeat not, one of the better features of EVE.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#42 - 2012-06-08 00:55:47 UTC
Ginseng Jita wrote:
So masternerdguy makes up the majority of all plaeyrs...him...his lone account?
Unlikely, but it's entirely possible that people like him are not a minority or a small percentage of players.
Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
#43 - 2012-06-08 00:56:54 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Greyscale Dash wrote:
Apparently the survey results indicate that most people do two very naughty things.

1. play solo
2. are pve only.

In fact, only about 1/4 of all players are interested in the pvp aspects of the game.


This is unacceptable.
We obviously aren't trying hard enough to force them into lo sec.

Time to step up the ganking. They resist, but once they lose some hulks and are forced down they'll enjoy the game.


A lot of them just refuse to try other aspects of the game. A girl (omg, a real one too!) in my corp quit EVE last week because all she wants to do is mine solo. She felt she was being forced to play a certain way & wouldn't submit to that. I could not stop laughing.


Why does someones play style infringe on your play style. I'll never understand this. These open ended games were meant to play as the player wishes to play it. If she was paying for her sub, let her play as she wishes to.
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#44 - 2012-06-08 00:56:55 UTC
Ginseng Jita wrote:

No...if there were another good sci-fi sandbox game out there. Doesn't even have to have as much PvP as this game has - it would bury EVE.


Oh my, another person who thinks a sandbox is some kind of ultraliberal hippie "be anything you want to be whenever you feel like it" dream.

Fun fact: The real world, where you have a job and taxes, is a pure sandbox. You *can* do anything, but you must acquire the prerequisite capital (resources), team (friends), and knowledge (science) to do it.

Nullsec is the closest you can get to the real world in EVE.

Things are only impossible until they are not.
Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
True Reign
#45 - 2012-06-08 00:57:26 UTC
Denial is a good tactic, OP. 25% of players subbed for PVP, and the average player has been in Eve for two years. I think they already know what they want to do and they're likely to be doing it.
Disregard That
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#46 - 2012-06-08 00:57:40 UTC
Malphilos wrote:
masternerdguy wrote:
.... it would require you to form real connections with other people ...


... like you.

That's what drives me off every time.

You are not, and I repeat not, one of the better features of EVE.

In today's technological environment, Homo Sapiens are always more compelling than coded responses.

Always.
Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
#47 - 2012-06-08 00:58:06 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Ginseng Jita wrote:
So masternerdguy makes up the majority of all plaeyrs...him...his lone account?
Unlikely, but it's entirely possible that people like him are not a minority or a small percentage of players.


I'd bet they are.
Syndrea Caedrion
Doomheim
#48 - 2012-06-08 00:58:57 UTC
Greyscale Dash wrote:
Apparently the survey results indicate that most people do two very naughty things.

1. play solo
2. are pve only.

In fact, only about 1/4 of all players are interested in the pvp aspects of the game.


This is unacceptable.
We obviously aren't trying hard enough to force them into lo sec.

Time to step up the ganking. They resist, but once they lose some hulks and are forced down they'll enjoy the game.


Don't forget the concentration camps too. Oh, excuse me, re-education communities. Gotta teach them a lesson, huh? No non-conformity will be tolerated.

They somehow managed to get every freak and creep in the universe in this one game, and then somehow managed to let them take it over, and then they somehow managed to stick us right smack in the middle.
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#49 - 2012-06-08 00:59:35 UTC
Ginseng Jita wrote:

No...if there were another good sci-fi sandbox game out there. Doesn't even have to have as much PvP as this game has - it would bury EVE.


Oh my, another person who thinks a sandbox is some kind of ultraliberal hippie "be anything you want to be whenever you feel like it" dream.

Fun fact: The real world, where you have a job and taxes, is a pure sandbox. You *can* do anything, but you must acquire the prerequisite capital (resources), team (friends), and knowledge (science) to do it.

Nullsec is the closest you can get to the real world in EVE.

Things are only impossible until they are not.
EVE Roy Mustang
Doomheim
#50 - 2012-06-08 01:00:05 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Ginseng Jita wrote:
So masternerdguy makes up the majority of all plaeyrs...him...his lone account?
Unlikely, but it's entirely possible that people like him are not a minority or a small percentage of players.


unlikely given 75% of ppl are in high sec
Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
#51 - 2012-06-08 01:00:26 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:
Ginseng Jita wrote:

No...if there were another good sci-fi sandbox game out there. Doesn't even have to have as much PvP as this game has - it would bury EVE.


Oh my, another person who thinks a sandbox is some kind of ultraliberal hippie "be anything you want to be whenever you feel like it" dream.

Fun fact: The real world, where you have a job and taxes, is a pure sandbox. You *can* do anything, but you must acquire the prerequisite capital (resources), team (friends), and knowledge (science) to do it.

Nullsec is the closest you can get to the real world in EVE.


If I want the real world, I'll turn off the "game" and walk out my front door. This is supposedly a game - remember?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#52 - 2012-06-08 01:00:41 UTC
EVE Roy Mustang wrote:
unlikely given 75% of ppl are in high sec
…except that 75% of people are not in highsec.
EVE Roy Mustang
Doomheim
#53 - 2012-06-08 01:01:23 UTC  |  Edited by: EVE Roy Mustang
Ginseng Jita wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Greyscale Dash wrote:
Apparently the survey results indicate that most people do two very naughty things.

1. play solo
2. are pve only.

In fact, only about 1/4 of all players are interested in the pvp aspects of the game.


This is unacceptable.
We obviously aren't trying hard enough to force them into lo sec.

Time to step up the ganking. They resist, but once they lose some hulks and are forced down they'll enjoy the game.


A lot of them just refuse to try other aspects of the game. A girl (omg, a real one too!) in my corp quit EVE last week because all she wants to do is mine solo. She felt she was being forced to play a certain way & wouldn't submit to that. I could not stop laughing.


Why does someones play style infringe on your play style. I'll never understand this. These open ended games were meant to play as the player wishes to play it. If she was paying for her sub, let her play as she wishes to.


Duh its not like this is a sandbox game, you do what they want or gtfo

Tippia wrote:
EVE Roy Mustang wrote:
unlikely given 75% of ppl are in high sec
…except that 75% of people are not in highsec.


Interesting... youre saying the CCP that tweeted they were was.... lying then?

Tippia tinfoil best tinfoil
Garr Samuel
Tafatt
#54 - 2012-06-08 01:01:35 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:
Ginseng Jita wrote:

If all the people in null-sec left, others would move in and take their place. The game is not all about null-sec. Never has been. It is because of this fact that a few. like yourself that whine and moan about the rest of the game, that the rest of the game is constantly being shelved to address a small percentage of players. There are more people playing than just you - remember that....many, many, many, more.


We've seen your hi sec community in action with the recent incursion nerf.

"We're a vital and relevant roleplaying community CCP and the bonds we've forged will endure through time"

--1 nerf later--

"ISK/hr for incursion not good enough I'm gonna solo level 4s again"

Yep. You guys totally have the drive, determination, and skill it takes to build a nullsec empire. You only complain about it because nullsec is too hard for you because it would require you to form real connections with other people and actually fight for something.


Nono, blasphemy! Art thou implying that some does not take internetspaceship pewpew game as srsbiznizly as thou or others?
Disregard That
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2012-06-08 01:01:37 UTC
Ginseng Jita wrote:
masternerdguy wrote:
Ginseng Jita wrote:

No...if there were another good sci-fi sandbox game out there. Doesn't even have to have as much PvP as this game has - it would bury EVE.


Oh my, another person who thinks a sandbox is some kind of ultraliberal hippie "be anything you want to be whenever you feel like it" dream.

Fun fact: The real world, where you have a job and taxes, is a pure sandbox. You *can* do anything, but you must acquire the prerequisite capital (resources), team (friends), and knowledge (science) to do it.

Nullsec is the closest you can get to the real world in EVE.


If I want the real world, I'll turn off the "game" and walk out my front door. This is supposedly a game - remember?

Many games go to great lengths to simulate reality.

Your mileage may vary, depending on a number of factors...Cry
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#56 - 2012-06-08 01:01:40 UTC
Ginseng Jita wrote:
masternerdguy wrote:
Ginseng Jita wrote:

No...if there were another good sci-fi sandbox game out there. Doesn't even have to have as much PvP as this game has - it would bury EVE.


Oh my, another person who thinks a sandbox is some kind of ultraliberal hippie "be anything you want to be whenever you feel like it" dream.

Fun fact: The real world, where you have a job and taxes, is a pure sandbox. You *can* do anything, but you must acquire the prerequisite capital (resources), team (friends), and knowledge (science) to do it.

Nullsec is the closest you can get to the real world in EVE.


If I want the real world, I'll turn off the "game" and walk out my front door. This is supposedly a game - remember?


Fine. Then admit you are anti-sandbox.

Things are only impossible until they are not.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#57 - 2012-06-08 01:03:31 UTC
EVE Roy Mustang wrote:
Interesting... youre saying the CCP that tweeted they were was.... lying then?
No, I'm saying that you are.

CCP has never said anything of the kind.
Malphilos
State War Academy
Caldari State
#58 - 2012-06-08 01:04:48 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Stensson
masternerdguy wrote:
Fine. Then admit you are anti-sandbox.


Bring on perma-death, or admit you're anti-sandbox (or at least your current misapprehended version thereof).

I've got a feeling there are some "consequences" you don't support.

Edit: Pyramid quoting removed - ISD Stensson
Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
#59 - 2012-06-08 01:05:14 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Stensson
masternerdguy wrote:
Fine. Then admit you are anti-sandbox.


I'm all for sandbox. The problem is - you are not. You want thegame to revolve around you and your gaming style and forget that there are tons more people playing this game than just you.

Edit: Pyramid quoting removed - ISD Stensson
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#60 - 2012-06-08 01:06:49 UTC
Ginseng Jita wrote:


I'm all for sandbox. The problem is - you are not. You want thegame to revolve around you and your gaming style and forget that there are tons more people playing this game than just you.


Except you are against sandbox elements that make your casual gameplay experience less enjoyable.

You don't want a sandbox mate. You want a themepark.

You want to login, and just go have fun with no consequences.

Things are only impossible until they are not.