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Everyone who supports this has never done alliance logistics.

**** everything about having to tear down/setup towers on a monthly basis not to mention the never ending moon scanning in your territory. Asking people to tear down towers because where once platinum existed is now technetium. Or tear down their reaction farm, research pos, or jump bridge pos because suddenly a moon resource needs to be mined there.

oh and for all those naysayers who say that pos mechanics blow and that is the reason against this idea...

this just in poses are getting a revamp and will be the dead horse versions SOON!

I would almost want to see this happen just to see the histrionic screeching that would happen from the advocates of this when ship prices tripled (an extremely conservative estimate) because nobody has any moon stuff to sell at all.

It would kill a lot of the incentive for null-sec alliances to fight each other.

The OP's proposal is flawed by a lack of understanding the real cause of the Tech problems. The problem is not simply Tech moons being too centralized. This is sort of a good thing, making some regions more valuable then others.

The problem is the excessive power-projection capabilities of null-alliances, and especially the financially feasibility of enforcing a cartel spanning close to a dozen regions, because of the ridiculous low cost of jump and bridge mechanics.

If the cost of jumping a single capital is increased to several hours worth of null-income for an individual player (and even more for super-caps), CFC-sized coalitions will shatter due to boredom-rot into much smaller entities restricting their projection of influence (and their targets) to their direct neighbors.

Enforcing a cartel like OTEC simply becomes impossible.

While it would remain economically feasible for an alliance to invest into expensively jumping in a capital fleet to conquer a good moon belonging to a neighbor, there is no way even GoonSwarm can continue to pay for rescuing moons of 'allies' several regions away when harassed from all sides.

Jump bridges, while definitely nice, are more of a convenience feature for daily travel than a rapid way to deploy fleets. Power projection generally has more to due with capital jump mechanics and bridges.

Technetium is a problem. Mittani himself has been saying this since he got on CSM 6, and has been calling for a rebalance openly and loudly the whole time. In the mean time, though, we're going to get as rich as we possibly can, with the rest of OTEC.

edit: post above me says it better than my post did. Delve has horrible logistics though and I don't want to go back there.

why you have never heard of an ore deposit before? you know that the moon is not completely made out of tech and even it was somehow that the moon would eventually deplete....

"choice"

WOLOLOLOL

Any dev who tells you the tech bottleneck was intentional is a ******* liar.

Touché

Still, Akita T with some number-crunching quickly foresaw what CCP should have realized themselves.

Eve is hard, right? Isn't that what you guys are constantly enspousing? Do you need a cookie and a hug?

Shuffling would be cruel, I think, but amusing to my sadistic impulses. However, I think that, in accordance with the whole risk vs reward, Eve has consequences mindset, Tech moons should be exclusive to losec only. You want it, you have to fight for it, on a daily basis if needs be. Losec represents the section of space where the greatest risks are taken everyday, why shouldn't it possess the greatest rewards as well?

You can argue nulsec should possess such an honor, but frankly, once you amass huge chunks of real estate, well...even a toon from a large alliance admitted that their backyard is beyond safe.

Leaving aside, of course, the nonsense that lowsec is where "the greatest risks" are taken as you can't even be bubbled into a station let alone be locked out of it.