These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

Leaving Eve forever. Tried putting this in my cancellation reason.
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
strikethree
Purple Passion Procurements
#81 - 2012-06-07 22:00:41 UTC
Peck R Wood wrote:
Don't let 'em get you down, brother. It's just a shame we have to lose a good player, such as yourself. It's also a shame to let all that isk go to waste, now if you could see your way into giving some of that to me, I guarantee . . .


LOL. Best "all ur stuffz" reply so far. Leading with a supportive response and falling off with a casual suggestion and guarantee (of something?). I like the construction of the post.

Hell, it was sooo good, I will pay you for it if you want. 100m ISK sound fun?

I am thinking of what ship to give you now...

Kind regards,
strike
adam smash
Department of Gub'nent Welfare
Harkonnen Federation
#82 - 2012-06-07 22:01:18 UTC
problem found, OP is on a crapple, just because your crapple overheats does not make it an eve issue lol.
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#83 - 2012-06-07 22:04:12 UTC
Alia Gon'die wrote:

I have to comment on your choice of computer as well. HOw much did you pay for that 2010 Macbook Pro? 1500-2000$? You could have just as easily gotten a very high quality windows laptop for the same price, and you would not be having gaming issues with it.


Well he would but only due to the nature of the beast. But he wouldn't be having many of the issues mentioned, that part is true. I wonder if OP realizes that MAc requires extra conversion which is why many companies don't even bother with compatibility for it.

But for price range Mac just can't compete with a PC. For what he did pay for that notebook he could have easily have gotten a high end laptop or pc that is quite comparable and as stated would have far fewer issues. Plus with PC you can upgrade parts as you move along.

Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?
TheBreadMuncher
Protus Correction Facility Inc.
#84 - 2012-06-07 22:06:06 UTC
Your stuff. In the bucket. Off you go.

"We will create the introduction thread if that is requested by the community. Also, we will have an ISD Seminar about the CCL team in the coming weeks in which you can ask your questions about the CCL team and provide some constructive feedback to us." - Countless pages of locked threads and numerous permabanned accounts later, change is coming.
Alia Gon'die
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#85 - 2012-06-07 22:11:00 UTC
strikethree wrote:
Alia Gon'die wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
I have to agree with the OP, I've been in other mmo's that rarely ever needed any extra 'Patching' done after deploying new content.

History repeats itself and in the case of Eve, that rings so true more often than not.


+1 for the OP.




DMC


Jesus christ DMC, you just hate CCP don't you? IF they aren't 100% perfect you are so less than pleased that you seem to think the developers should get on bent knew and lick your feet clean.


Hm. There are different levels of "patching'. It is not a case of 100% perfect or 100% crap. Perhaps what he is implying is that while 97% (random number) perfect is what he is used to seeing, what he is seeing with Eve is only 67% (another random number) perfect. Maybe?

For me, it has nothing to do with hating. Why would I stay so long and give so much money to CCP if I hated them? I just wanted to cancel my account today and let them know why I was doing so. The form I was submitting it in either could/would not accept it or it timed out.

My cancellation speaks for itself. They get the feedback that I am not happy spending my money in this manner. My original post was to give them a clearer reason than just, "I am unhappy". I hope this helps you and CCP understand what is going on and why it is going on.


I wasn't talking about you hating though, was I? DMC has a bad habit of coming into threads and taking every opportunity he can to **** all over CCP.

Self-appointed forums hallway monitor Ask me about La Maison and what it means for you! http://bit.ly/LTW5gW These wardec rules are not in place for our protection. They're in place for yours.
strikethree
Purple Passion Procurements
#86 - 2012-06-07 22:11:31 UTC
THE L0CK wrote:
Alia Gon'die wrote:

I have to comment on your choice of computer as well. HOw much did you pay for that 2010 Macbook Pro? 1500-2000$? You could have just as easily gotten a very high quality windows laptop for the same price, and you would not be having gaming issues with it.


Well he would but only due to the nature of the beast. But he wouldn't be having many of the issues mentioned, that part is true. I wonder if OP realizes that MAc requires extra conversion which is why many companies don't even bother with compatibility for it.

But for price range Mac just can't compete with a PC. For what he did pay for that notebook he could have easily have gotten a high end laptop or pc that is quite comparable and as stated would have far fewer issues. Plus with PC you can upgrade parts as you move along.


I have multiple computers. Why is everyone focusing on the Apple? It is a computer that I have that exacerbates the worst of the resource usage issues. Even on my absurd overkill computer, I STILL have to wait for my ships to load. The problem is the inefficient use of resources, some of which even overkill hardware can not overcome because it is not a hardware problem.
strikethree
Purple Passion Procurements
#87 - 2012-06-07 22:12:41 UTC
Alia Gon'die wrote:
strikethree wrote:
Alia Gon'die wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
I have to agree with the OP, I've been in other mmo's that rarely ever needed any extra 'Patching' done after deploying new content.

History repeats itself and in the case of Eve, that rings so true more often than not.


+1 for the OP.




DMC


Jesus christ DMC, you just hate CCP don't you? IF they aren't 100% perfect you are so less than pleased that you seem to think the developers should get on bent knew and lick your feet clean.


Hm. There are different levels of "patching'. It is not a case of 100% perfect or 100% crap. Perhaps what he is implying is that while 97% (random number) perfect is what he is used to seeing, what he is seeing with Eve is only 67% (another random number) perfect. Maybe?

For me, it has nothing to do with hating. Why would I stay so long and give so much money to CCP if I hated them? I just wanted to cancel my account today and let them know why I was doing so. The form I was submitting it in either could/would not accept it or it timed out.

My cancellation speaks for itself. They get the feedback that I am not happy spending my money in this manner. My original post was to give them a clearer reason than just, "I am unhappy". I hope this helps you and CCP understand what is going on and why it is going on.


I wasn't talking about you hating though, was I? DMC has a bad habit of coming into threads and taking every opportunity he can to **** all over CCP.


Oh. I was not aware he has such a habit. I apologize for interfering. Have a good day. :)
Alia Gon'die
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#88 - 2012-06-07 22:14:24 UTC
Good days are out of the question so long as I'm at school 13 hours out of the day.

Self-appointed forums hallway monitor Ask me about La Maison and what it means for you! http://bit.ly/LTW5gW These wardec rules are not in place for our protection. They're in place for yours.
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#89 - 2012-06-07 22:19:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Mortimer Civeri
Ranger 1 wrote:
Roisin Saoirse wrote:
Since I've had to disable the sound due to a crippling memory leak introduced in Crucible and never fixed or even responded to, I can sympathise. In fact, the constant serious bug introductions from SiSi to TQ is one of the main reasons I'm leaving too, as well as a few other people. So you're certainly not the only one in this situation.

Apparently CCP are looking to improve the situation with regard to bug reporting and feedback but let's be honest, a certain over-quoted phrase Hilmar used springs to mind again and again. Time will tell.


Interesting. Is this memory leak somehow selective?

I ask because I have not experienced this nor has anyone I am in contact with, and usualy a memory leak (sound related or not) is fairly universal. I personally keep the sound on in EVE, which puts me in the minority I am sure.

I've heard of this memory leak, it is a PEBKAC problem and is related to an ID-tenT problem.

"I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
Saia Tae Arragosa
Doomheim
#90 - 2012-06-07 22:25:31 UTC
OP, seriously, if you truly are going to leave forever, you could send some of those resources and ISK to players who intend to stay and make a go at it. I'd be willing to take some of them off your hand. I'll put it to good use.
Karak Terrel
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
#91 - 2012-06-07 22:25:48 UTC
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
PEBKAC problem

That's a bit redundant isn't it redundant?
strikethree
Purple Passion Procurements
#92 - 2012-06-07 22:43:51 UTC
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:
OP, seriously, if you truly are going to leave forever, you could send some of those resources and ISK to players who intend to stay and make a go at it. I'd be willing to take some of them off your hand. I'll put it to good use.


A well reasoned argument but it is lacking in persuasion. No cookie for you. :)

I did give away 150m so far to some good arguments but honestly, if things change, I may be back. I actually do like the game. I just do not like the issues while trying to play the game.

Good bye.
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#93 - 2012-06-07 22:46:21 UTC
So in short, you don't like the way CCP runs it's own business so you are leaving?

Bye.

Bounties for all! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2279821#post2279821
Alia Gon'die
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#94 - 2012-06-07 22:46:41 UTC
strikethree wrote:
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:
OP, seriously, if you truly are going to leave forever, you could send some of those resources and ISK to players who intend to stay and make a go at it. I'd be willing to take some of them off your hand. I'll put it to good use.


A well reasoned argument but it is lacking in persuasion. No cookie for you. :)

I did give away 150m so far to some good arguments but honestly, if things change, I may be back. I actually do like the game. I just do not like the issues while trying to play the game.

Good bye.


I could go for some money, but I'm in my religion class and can't make good arguments for why you should give me money.

Self-appointed forums hallway monitor Ask me about La Maison and what it means for you! http://bit.ly/LTW5gW These wardec rules are not in place for our protection. They're in place for yours.
Saia Tae Arragosa
Doomheim
#95 - 2012-06-07 22:49:48 UTC
strikethree wrote:
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:
OP, seriously, if you truly are going to leave forever, you could send some of those resources and ISK to players who intend to stay and make a go at it. I'd be willing to take some of them off your hand. I'll put it to good use.


A well reasoned argument but it is lacking in persuasion. No cookie for you. :)

I did give away 150m so far to some good arguments but honestly, if things change, I may be back. I actually do like the game. I just do not like the issues while trying to play the game.

Good bye.


Staying and making a go at a game that has many issues as you have pointed out is not a good reason? Hmmm...you sure you are not trolling?
Alia Gon'die
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#96 - 2012-06-07 22:54:47 UTC
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:
strikethree wrote:
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:
OP, seriously, if you truly are going to leave forever, you could send some of those resources and ISK to players who intend to stay and make a go at it. I'd be willing to take some of them off your hand. I'll put it to good use.


A well reasoned argument but it is lacking in persuasion. No cookie for you. :)

I did give away 150m so far to some good arguments but honestly, if things change, I may be back. I actually do like the game. I just do not like the issues while trying to play the game.

Good bye.


Staying and making a go at a game that has many issues as you have pointed out is not a good reason? Hmmm...you sure you are not trolling?


I bet you're trolling.

Self-appointed forums hallway monitor Ask me about La Maison and what it means for you! http://bit.ly/LTW5gW These wardec rules are not in place for our protection. They're in place for yours.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#97 - 2012-06-07 22:59:49 UTC
strikethree wrote:
Quality control


Yup. Right there with you.

Sideways warping, sound engine that breaks in different ways every patch (one patch all noises are about 1/10th volume, next patch you get weird noises when jumping gates, another patch you'll get some noises really loud like the classic invulnerability field of awesome throbbing), unified inventory attempting to do the classic "query the database for the whole world, then just filter what the user wants locally" SQL/UI anti-pattern.

The one that hurts me the most is that when using missiles I either have glorious high definition smoke trails, or nothing at all. With smoke trails my frame rate drops to about 5fps. With no smoke trails I get 11fps, but no idea of where my missiles are. It's depressing! My only consolation is the belief that a new range of iMacs will be announced next week during WWDC, which will hopefully have graphics cards that aren't as ancient as the ATI Radeon X1600 in my current 6-year-old iMac Lol

With Unified Inventory, it takes upwards of 20 seconds for me to load inventory in certain stations (but then, that's probably my fault because I'm one of those players who knows that there is a limit of 999 (stacks of) things in station). I can't do anything except undock. Just sit there and watch the spinners rolling around and around. You should see how bad it is when I dock at a station with a corporate office used for manufacturing. Ick. The only change I want to see made to Unified Inventory is to only query the database for stuff when I'm looking for it. Do I have corporate hangars open? No? Don't load the thousands of items in the corporate hangars. Do I have corporate hangar #1 open? Yes? Why are you loading stuff from the other 6 hangars first?

I'm a little more patient with the patching thing though. I understand that CCP are trying to migrate from one patching system to another. I'll give them six months to get that all sorted out before I start complaining about it.

But the sound engine problems? Warp tunnel appearing sideways? What's going on there guys? These problems are recurrent (and the warp tunnel one is getting worse).

I'm not about to unsubscribe, since the problems aren't bad enough to make me stop playing the game. The problems do severely reduce my level of immersion in the game though.

Day 0 Advice for New Players
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#98 - 2012-06-07 23:02:16 UTC
strikethree wrote:
THE L0CK wrote:
Alia Gon'die wrote:

I have to comment on your choice of computer as well. HOw much did you pay for that 2010 Macbook Pro? 1500-2000$? You could have just as easily gotten a very high quality windows laptop for the same price, and you would not be having gaming issues with it.


Well he would but only due to the nature of the beast. But he wouldn't be having many of the issues mentioned, that part is true. I wonder if OP realizes that MAc requires extra conversion which is why many companies don't even bother with compatibility for it.

But for price range Mac just can't compete with a PC. For what he did pay for that notebook he could have easily have gotten a high end laptop or pc that is quite comparable and as stated would have far fewer issues. Plus with PC you can upgrade parts as you move along.


I have multiple computers. Why is everyone focusing on the Apple? It is a computer that I have that exacerbates the worst of the resource usage issues. Even on my absurd overkill computer, I STILL have to wait for my ships to load. The problem is the inefficient use of resources, some of which even overkill hardware can not overcome because it is not a hardware problem.



Because the apple is just one of the problems. Also I am real curious as to the specs of this "overkill" computer. You also brought up what sounds like a horrible ISP speed which also attributes to the issue. I mean seriously, you can have the hot rod of computers but connecting it to a slow ass modem is like putting a single barrel carb on your 454 big block. You are going to have a choke point.

So I just did a test and to dock in a station and have everything loaded was a grand total of 3 seconds. To load from the hangar into the CQ was 15 seconds. To load back was 2 seconds. To enter space was 9 seconds. If those are the times you are getting then you are impatient. If you are getting longer times than that then it is probably client side.

Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?
Roisin Saoirse
Doomheim
#99 - 2012-06-07 23:04:28 UTC
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
I've heard of this memory leak, it is a PEBKAC problem and is related to an ID-tenT problem.

Uh huh. So the fact that nothing at all was changed in my system in the transition between Incarna and Crucible, yet after Crucible we encountered a crippling memory leak that was only prevented by disabling audio completely... yet that is somehow a PEBKAC issue?

Unless I can psychically corrupt the code in the EVE client or somehow influence the CPU in some way... no. Roll
Ditra Vorthran
Caldari Imports and Exports
#100 - 2012-06-07 23:04:59 UTC
Boy, am I relieved! I though he was talking about EvE, but after reading his post, I can see he's really talking about SW:TOR.

"Miners mine so I don't have to." ~Metal Icarus