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It's not surprising CCP added consequence to occupany before fixing the obvious issues with NPC imbalance that have been pointed out years...

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Sexy stuff gets more subs than broken **** loses.

Sad but true.

CCP setup the NPCs to resember their racial Ewar and weapon platforms. As a result, amarr cannot track and/or have too short a range vs minmitar target painting with missiles and longer range weapons. Their NPC's weapons hit us and ewar makes us have a larger sig radius. Our NPCs don't scratch them.

Still no comments from a dev on this... Nice to see their interest in FW and a BALANCED war for us to fight in...

the amount of people missing the really simple points in this thread is truly astounding.

Minmatar have 90% of the systems, decontesting in their own space is extremely easy, even easier the further behind the "front lines" the contested system is.

With the imbalance of npcs (ease of plexing against amarr rats) combined with the cheap LP prices on the minm side, means they are attracting even more players to plex their side (while already having superior numbers before patch).

The amarr fought hard these last two weeks and got our total system upgrades and occupancy to around 10%, in just 3-4 days thats dropped to under 4%. There is no coincidence here.

If i was joining as a new player to pvp and fw, why would i pick any other side than minmatar. I can plex for isk or decontest without much bother and can easily replace any of my super cheap, no weapon, nano ships with just a few plexes worth of lp. Infact i could fund about 50 in just an hours work.

These are the reasons something needs to give on the overall mechanic, npc or plex front. I will say that i dont think everyone in FW NEEDS TO PVP all the time to make isk, but it certinly should be a bigger part of it than this. Before pvpers that needed isk from fw would get in their pve ships and do run some missions and perhaps fight back some opposition on the way.

Perhaps split the timers into two, if you dont kill all the rats on the first button, the second button wont spawn - simple and effective. Though alot more could be done to jazz it up to actually make it fun and invite a little more pvp into fw as a whole.

the FW mechanic has a severe design issue. It is designed to go out of balance quickly... which is fine, BUT it will stick in that state. The weaker side has a useless LP shop and has additionally to that LP gaining penalties. This makes recovery impossible if you see FW as a closed system (luckily it isnt).

The NPCs are joke. Minmatars can solo a major plex in a vigil in a noob char - entirely risk free since its costs basically nothing. Decontesting has the same time effort as contesting but has no rewards for the individual at all. Try this in a minmatar plex...

amarr is losing right now systems we just conquered last week. Its just not sustainable to defend them under those circumstances.

In point of fact, the Amarr NPCs DO neut., but the range is short enough (and the ships slow enough) that a frigate orbiting the button is almost never actually threatened by them.

The disparity lies more with one side's npcs using missiles than with the ewar involved.

Whatever drugs you are on, stop taking them...

NEVER had anything to do with the goons. Also - if you had anything close to reading comprehension, I never asked for a nerf. I asked for a buff. Specifically to the difficulty of the Amarr NPCs... No one in the Amarr militia is asking for the NPCs we face to be nerfed to make them easier - just bring what the minmitar face up to the level we face...

P.S.

Go back to renting in null and troll somewhere else...

first off sound like the min and gal side of FW have there game in place and use there ships to the best bounes the ships give.

2nd Target painting and speed is a min thing there ship given boost to it deal with it.

3nd Cal jam. Amarr major armor res and thick armor and nuets. Gal.sen damp. and high dmg blasers that what there npcs do.

If your crying about fw plexing to bad you have not found the best way to do it like the gal and min forces have plus from the sounds of it fount line combat cal and amarr are not all that good at it why is that?

after reading all the posts here sound like the cal and amarr side of the fw dont have there stuff together and need to talk a bit more with each other and work out what there doing wrong.

AS for the Gal. and Min side of the FW GO GO GO!

It's not like mission farming - Many FW missions are easier as there can be only 1 target to kill to complete the mission if the player knows which missions to pick and which to ignore.
Very easy to get in and out without being attacked.
Add to that 90% of the missions were done in Stealth Bombers so they could just cloak up and waste your time.
FW Missions did not provide PvP to those looking for it.


With a plex you know they are stuck there for a minimum of 10min.
This gives you the chance to get a fleet up and deny them the plexes almost everywhere they go - set up on the escape routes and catch them.
If they change system - follow and repeat.
The chances of pew have increased lots since the patch. I used to goto low sec and plex and not see anyone.
Now there is lots of fun and games while plexing.