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Get with the program high secers
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Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#61 - 2012-06-07 18:32:50 UTC
Talon SilverHawk wrote:
But everyone tells us to go into low and null its so great, are you sure your not trying to steal hi sec by stealth ? ShockedLol


actually, most nullsec corps would rather recruit a willing newbie in a rifter who wants to learn about PvP than some risk-averse kdr bear in a proteus who will warp off the second anything remotely threatening shows up

so no, nobody in nullsec wants you

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#62 - 2012-06-07 18:33:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Corina Jarr
Why would I want to go to boring nullsec when I can have fun in HS.

Edit: however hero (or dead...) rifter would be great fun. Hmmm.
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
#63 - 2012-06-07 18:38:09 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Talon SilverHawk wrote:
But everyone tells us to go into low and null its so great, are you sure your not trying to steal hi sec by stealth ? ShockedLol


actually, most nullsec corps would rather recruit a willing newbie in a rifter who wants to learn about PvP than some risk-averse kdr bear in a proteus who will warp off the second anything remotely threatening shows up

so no, nobody in nullsec wants you


er wtf are you talking about ? all we hear in the forums is how to push hi sec players into low (please check the thread your responding to)


Nobody wants me, you, you hurt my fealings Cry


Tal




Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#64 - 2012-06-07 18:39:16 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
Oh look, another person trying to tell me how to play the game. Hmmm... How about: No.


you already tried and failed at the nullsec game, but at least you tried


You seem to think you know me. That's cute.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#65 - 2012-06-07 18:45:55 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
"Hey I am pro and elite, I am going lo live in the slums and work as moon burger flipper as my overlord demands".


A hisec hulk miner is the EVE equivalent of a homeless guy dumpster diving for aluminum cans and old copper pipes to sell to scrap collectors while bragging to others about being free from the shackles of "overlords" while getting trash thrown at him by the nullsec "burger flippers" in their BMWs


In case this needs clarification, hi sec hosts somewhat more than Hulk miners.

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Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#66 - 2012-06-07 18:47:11 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
In case this needs clarification, hi sec hosts somewhat more than Hulk miners.


can't forget the mission bots

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#67 - 2012-06-07 18:53:11 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
In case this needs clarification, hi sec hosts somewhat more than Hulk miners.


can't forget the mission bots


And the incursion elites.

Both played by alts owned by 0.0 mains till they got both nerfed.

Wonder why they left wonderland to come add lag to The Forge.

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Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#68 - 2012-06-07 18:55:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Richard Desturned
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Wonder why they left wonderland to come add lag to The Forge.


Because CCP broke risk/reward throughout the game by nerfing anomalies into the ground and adding farmable vanguards to hisec?

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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#69 - 2012-06-07 18:57:32 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
"Hey I am pro and elite, I am going lo live in the slums and work as moon burger flipper as my overlord demands".


A hisec hulk miner is the EVE equivalent of a homeless guy dumpster diving for aluminum cans and old copper pipes to sell to scrap collectors while bragging to others about being free from the shackles of "overlords" while getting trash thrown at him by the nullsec "burger flippers" in their BMWs


ROFL

Double rofl @ me agreeing with a Goon :) .

To the OP, NO, HELL NO, let the entitled high sec crowd stay where they are, Null sec is best with people who want to be there and who (generally) want to fight.

I don't care that people want to solo this or casual that in high sec, hiding in npc corps and such. To each his own.

I just hate the whinning they do, the entitled belief that they should be able to affect MY game experiance (by dumping their LP, minerals, incursions isk) but get mad when people do the same to them by ganking them or killing the mothership lol. I despise people who think the world should cater to them and them alone.

Which is why I (one of the most anti-goon people who has ever played) say GO GOONS on this one. Make them "HighBears" cry/short out their mysteriously stained (because of fapping) keyboards.
Damitrius
Wraith Inc
#70 - 2012-06-07 19:06:02 UTC
So if I am a hi-sec carebear perfectly happy mining and idustrializing, and I'm happy with the income it provides me, tell me what incentive I have to go somewhere that I can get more readily shot up. I don't whine or ask for more protection in high-sec, I understand that being ganked is part of the game, I'm just asking what it is that a null-sec alliance can offer me that I should go out of my way for them.
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#71 - 2012-06-07 19:11:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Makkal Hanaya
Nate Guralman wrote:

I'm working on it. I spoke with a very friendly person from a corp called Goonswarms (I hope I'm spelling that right), and he said there was an application processing fee. I told him I didn't have much ISK, so he suggested I purchase PLEX and buy a Hulk to mine the rest.

I can't wait to join Goonswarms! They seem so friendly and helpful.

Goons are totes friendly and helpful to their new corp members.

Damitrius wrote:
So if I am a hi-sec carebear perfectly happy mining and idustrializing, and I'm happy with the income it provides me, tell me what incentive I have to go somewhere that I can get more readily shot up. I don't whine or ask for more protection in high-sec, I understand that being ganked is part of the game, I'm just asking what it is that a null-sec alliance can offer me that I should go out of my way for them.

If you're enjoying yourself, you're doing it right.

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#72 - 2012-06-07 19:19:41 UTC
Every type of space deserves to have good gameplay.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#73 - 2012-06-07 19:30:13 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Wonder why they left wonderland to come add lag to The Forge.


Because CCP broke risk/reward throughout the game by nerfing anomalies into the ground and adding farmable vanguards to hisec?


Didn't they nerf incursion quite hard now? I bet 70% of the playerbase are still in hi sec and half of them are 0.0 alts. For some reason they are still in hi sec despite incursions are not so good any more.

The comic aspect of all of this is that this whole argument looks like coutryside folks slinging at city dwellers and vice versa.

Countryside folks laughing at city inhabitants because they don't know how to make cows give birth to calves, and city inhabitants laughing at country folks because they use straw hats.

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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2012-06-07 19:31:31 UTC
Highsec currently seems to offer me several advantages to null off the top of my head:

1.Ease of travel without having to use scouts/intel channels
2.Access to market hubs providing just about anything needed with relative convenience and lower costs compared to null (when last I was there)
3.The ability to dabble in various occupations easily, partially facilitated by market hub access to allow for quick access to any materials needed
4.People trying to kill me for being in a system that they consider their territory is the rare exception rather than the norm when traveling away from "home"
5.Reduced need to stop what I'm doing and dock up/POS up due to people entering local
6.I have little to no interest in voluntarily engaging in PvP

For someone who plays as casually and unfocused as I do, I doubt I'd be a terribly useful asset to any null organization. Additionally if null holds no benefits for me how would going there be anything like "getting with the program." If any of these is based on some sort of misconception, please feel free to inform me.
AllUrIskRBelongToMeToo
NuclearSpaceFishCapitalism
#75 - 2012-06-07 19:34:36 UTC
ian papabear wrote:


2. the majority of null isnt made up of predators who maliciously want to ruin the game for noobs some of us actually care about other peoples gameplay experience.




Oh, so they shipped all the assholes to hisec? That or these caring individuals are actually funding a campaign of harassment against the very players they want to cuddle with?Roll
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#76 - 2012-06-07 19:34:59 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Every type of space deserves to have good gameplay.

I know you. A couple of days ago, I was in local when you shot up that miner because he suddenly turned red.

Sorry, this is the first time I've seen someone from the game in the forums. Cool

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.
Malphilos
State War Academy
Caldari State
#77 - 2012-06-07 19:37:00 UTC
AllUrIskRBelongToMeToo wrote:
ian papabear wrote:


2. the majority of null isnt made up of predators who maliciously want to ruin the game for noobs some of us actually care about other peoples gameplay experience.




Oh, so they shipped all the assholes to hisec? That or these caring individuals are actually funding a campaign of harassment against the very players they want to cuddle with?Roll



There's all kinds of "caring". Evil
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#78 - 2012-06-07 19:39:00 UTC
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
casual


So why is this thrown around as a valid argument in favor of broken income levels from incursions and whatnot?

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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#79 - 2012-06-07 19:41:01 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Every type of space deserves to have good gameplay.


Finish the thought:

"Every types of space deserves good game play, but some types of space deserve better resources because of the Risk/Reward nature of the game".

Because EVE is divided by security status, those who venture out and expose themselves to more risk (and more headaches, living in null isn't nearly as easy as living in high sec) should have a better time overall than people who cower in relative safety/convinience.
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#80 - 2012-06-07 19:41:55 UTC
ian papabear wrote:
go to null

pick an alliance, any alliance, i dont care just join an alliance and stop crying about how your high sec has been nerfed .


being told what to do and where to go in a sandbox . I am so going to follow your instructions. /sarcasm
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