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newbs and corps

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Magna Bellator
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-06-07 18:07:32 UTC
Me (being a new player) have noticed a lot of talk while researching the WWW that to be fairly successful, you need to be apart of a corporation.

question:
being a new player just trying to learn, is this something I should try to look into and join one? I understand some are newb friendly whereas others want you to know what your doing (understandably).

My problem is I am not Making the money I want/need doing these small little 30,000 isk missions these agents give me, and takes forever to save up enough to buy a simple thing, but have found mining to be a nice little side job but I just think there its more to the game.

thanks.

"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.”

Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#2 - 2012-06-07 18:12:35 UTC
Regarding corps: the majority of corps that aren't connection-based (i.e. people that know each other in RL, from another game, etc) will take you and at least answer basic questions in chat if they're not actually doing anything. Just ask if they have any specific skill/activity/etc requirements before you apply and they'll tell you.

Regarding income: the standard for newer players is missions, pick an NPC corp and work up your faction until you can access L3 missions. If you want a corp to help with this, make sure you join one that tells you they do missions for the same empire faction you typically work for.
Ackemi
The Gaming Avenue
Shadow Ultimatum
#3 - 2012-06-07 19:02:32 UTC
Listen for it, pay attention because you won't hear this from most Eve Online pilots:

There's nothing wrong with playing Eve like it was a single player game. Shocked

I did it for a full year and a half and don't regret it one bit. This mode of play is really just for the extremely patient planner who want's to explore many of the things in game by yourself because it's a personal challenge! The challenge of getting isk for that new shiney, the challenge of getting that cheap shiny in the neighboring losec station without getting popped, the list is endless.

You just have to realize it's a sandbox MMO so you can't cry foul if others want to interact with you!

The inevitable conclusion to this mode of gameplay is boredom, stagnation, and quitting for the next game title. The amount of time till it happens varies by person.

To overcome this hump you have to take the game to the next level and experience the multiplayer aspect. You'll learn quickly that to do anything notable when interacting with others is that you want a group on your side (or you are fighting on their side). In Eve that mechanic is the corp. Everything above your corp is really just political maneuvering at the corp level. Your corp should be your space brosefs you enjoy hearing and speaking to while doing things together in Eve. There are many other ideas about what constitutes a good corp, but it all comes down to you and your ideas. Take the time to research a corp where you think you might fit in then join and get involved. Everything will sort itself from there.

Most people have drawn the conclusion that this mode (Pvp/MMO) is when the game begins so the first thing they recommend is finding a corp and start there. I don't necessarily agree, but I will say if you aren't the patient planning type who likes to learn by reading/experimenting and doesn't mind setbacks and enjoys the personal challenge that the Eve learning curve is - you really want to find a corp to help you fast track over that cliff face that is the learning curve.

Learning how to make isk to meet your goals is one of the bottom footholds on that cliff!

Sugar Kyle
Middle Ground
#4 - 2012-06-07 20:07:05 UTC
Even if you do not join a corp at least find a social group. Exterior help so so, incredibly important in this game.

I personally say find a corp. It is not an easy task and you may have misses and that is okay. But, it makes a difference.

Member of CSM9 and CSM10.

Magna Bellator
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-06-07 20:53:31 UTC
Thanks all,

very helpful feedback. Also thanks for the good in depth detail akemi. I'll take a look at corps tonight.


I originally planned to do more military but I have a feeling merchant, mining, or perhaps exploration may be better money generators, so I think I may need to first decide what I want to do :)

"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.”

yopparai
ASTARTES CORP
Hashashin Cartel
#6 - 2012-06-07 21:23:30 UTC
The alliance/corp recruitment section of the eve forums is a good place to start when looking for a group of capsuleers that fit your desired play style.

Yopp
Sugar Kyle
Middle Ground
#7 - 2012-06-07 22:31:16 UTC
Magna Bellator wrote:
Thanks all,

very helpful feedback. Also thanks for the good in depth detail akemi. I'll take a look at corps tonight.


I originally planned to do more military but I have a feeling merchant, mining, or perhaps exploration may be better money generators, so I think I may need to first decide what I want to do :)


Many people do a bit of everything. Some corps are very focused on indy, or mining, or missions. Exploration is a rather solo gig at the lower end of the site spectrum. Knowing what you 'want to do' may take a lot longer then you expect. Don't be discouraged. At the same time, try not to spread your self so thin that you do not have any solid skills to lean back on.

Also, some things are going to take a little longer to get into then others. Don't push them tot he wayside. There is plenty to do at any given time. Sometimes you may simply have to be more creative then others.

Member of CSM9 and CSM10.

Magna Bellator
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-06-08 06:41:27 UTC
So what is it that Explorers really do? I can view the map and see several star systems, I can read where they found artifacts on planets and know whereabouts they are…? Is there things out there in the eve environment that “haven’t been discovered” yet?

I took a trip to the Eve gate, took me 30 jumps to get there, and …… lets just say it wasn’t no grand canyon Big smile

"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.”

Velicitia
XS Tech
#9 - 2012-06-08 08:25:57 UTC
Magna Bellator wrote:
So what is it that Explorers really do? I can view the map and see several star systems, I can read where they found artifacts on planets and know whereabouts they are…? Is there things out there in the eve environment that “haven’t been discovered” yet?



Yes and no.

"Yes" in the sense that when exploring, you find different signatures (Radar, Magnetometric, Gravimetric, etc) in space, and have to go check them out to get stuff (previously unknown asteroid clusters, a pirate hideout, etc). What you run into is dependant on the site type (e.g. grav sites are always mining, and so on). There's always the chance (ok, it's a really high chance) that you'll find an "Unknown" signature which is a wormhole that may take you into W-space.

"No" in the sense that since these sites have been around for a few years, we've "found" them all (in the sense that the players know what the wormhole IDs mean, etc). However, since these sites spawn randomly after being completed (or, in the case of wormholes, collapsing), there's always going to be an "undiscovered" site somewhere.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

DeBingJos
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-06-08 09:47:05 UTC
Joining a corp as a very new player has several great advantages.


  • You can always get the help you need..
  • The help you get is generaly of better quality than on the forums. (without the trolling)
  • It's fun to do stuff together with other players.
  • It's much easiers to gain isk in a corp with others. People can show you how to make isk, you can tag along on higher level missions, ...


Not all corps are equal though and make sure to ask questions during your inteview. Also remember: you can leave at any time and join another corp. Play the game to have fun.

That said, feel free to contact me if you are looking for a corp. We are very casual and do a lot of stuff.

Ungi maðurinn þekkir reglurnar, en gamli maðurinn þekkir undantekningarnar. The young man knows the rules, but the old man knows the exceptions.

Major Killz
inglorious bastards.
#11 - 2012-06-08 11:37:52 UTC
Well, in 2 months your income will be substantially more than it is now. Provided you're able to fly a battlecruiser and are doing level 3 and 4 missions.

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