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CCP needs to ban -5 or lower players from hi-sec

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Rengerel en Distel
#41 - 2012-06-07 13:19:30 UTC
He's obviously talking about someone using an orca and people with -5 and lower running in with capsule to grab a ship and gank. No one is going to pop a capsule at gates in high sec unless the guy lags out. Outlaw status is irrelevant at that point, as they just get concorded and do it again. The only way to stop it is to not allow outlaws to board ships in space in high sec, but that makes no sense with game mechanics.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
seany1212
M Y S T
#42 - 2012-06-07 13:22:57 UTC
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
He's obviously talking about someone using an orca and people with -5 and lower running in with capsule to grab a ship and gank. No one is going to pop a capsule at gates in high sec unless the guy lags out. Outlaw status is irrelevant at that point, as they just get concorded and do it again. The only way to stop it is to not allow outlaws to board ships in space in high sec, but that makes no sense with game mechanics.


He's obviously mad because he's back to botting and now hulkageddon is mainstream he's getting popped seeing as he isnt sitting at his computer... Roll
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#43 - 2012-06-07 13:44:53 UTC
Cebraio wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:
evereplicant wrote:
the people you are ganking are usually NOOBS


>Hulks
>New players

lmao


According to this old thread it takes about 30 days to train for a Hulk. A thirty day old player, I'd still consider a noob. Also, he will be in other gank target mining barges before that.

There are filthy industry corps out there that encourage players to get into a mining barge or exhumer as fast as possible. So I think many of your gank targets are still noobs in one way or another (one way being "new", the other being "clueless").


Sounds like those industrial corps are doing their newbies a serious disservice if they aren't teaching them about the well documented mechanics of the game they play.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Kyra Yaken
Doomheim
#44 - 2012-06-07 13:50:53 UTC
Make them unable to dock in hisec

True story Bro.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#45 - 2012-06-07 14:00:31 UTC
Kyra Yaken wrote:
Make them unable to dock in hisec


Wouldn't actually cause much trouble.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#46 - 2012-06-07 14:53:27 UTC
Musashi IV wrote:
A player who reaches -5 should be banned from entering or playing in hi-sec.



Your opinion is incorrect.

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Tenchi Sal
White Knights of Equestria
#47 - 2012-06-07 15:04:17 UTC
ccp shouldn't ban players with -5 or below from hi sec. what ccp should do is deny them docking rights in hi sec. low sec, fine, null sec fine. there needs to be penalty for the things you do. as it stands, griefers run free and wild all over hi sec. every couple of weeks i run around in my inty trying to catch red pods, and every time its the same thing:

pirate docks, cant do jack.
pirate undocks, immunity sets in, cant even target them, they warp away instantly.
pirate hits a gate, jumps. again nothing.
pirate pops out of the gate, instantly warps off, again, nothing.

it would seem ccp just wants to baby them and not let them pay for their actions.
HVAC Repairman
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#48 - 2012-06-07 15:07:23 UTC
the correct solution is to ban all players from all secs

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Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#49 - 2012-06-07 15:08:30 UTC
CCP needs to ban idiots who make dumb posts from the forums.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#50 - 2012-06-07 15:08:57 UTC
Tenchi Sal wrote:

it would seem HS Players just wants to baby them and not let them pay for their actions.


Fixed that for you.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
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Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2012-06-07 15:09:17 UTC
Tenchi Sal wrote:
ccp shouldn't ban players with -5 or below from hi sec. what ccp should do is deny them docking rights in hi sec. low sec, fine, null sec fine. there needs to be penalty for the things you do. as it stands, griefers run free and wild all over hi sec. every couple of weeks i run around in my inty trying to catch red pods, and every time its the same thing:

pirate docks, cant do jack.
pirate undocks, immunity sets in, cant even target them, they warp away instantly.
pirate hits a gate, jumps. again nothing.
pirate pops out of the gate, instantly warps off, again, nothing.

it would seem ccp just wants to baby them and not let them pay for their actions.

If high-sec risk-averse filth would just use the aggression flags for what they are meant for, players could ban -5s from high-sec. Without a doubt this is the stupidest topic to continuously rear its head in GD.

Eve players taking control of their own destinies by utilizing Home Defense tactics?

Part of the playerbase gets it.

The rest just mewl on.
Shaera Taam
Khanid Prime Free Irregulars
#52 - 2012-06-07 15:43:48 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
... Isn't a sub -5 status in HS an indicator of "You can violence them without repercussion from Concord"?

edit, yup.

Quote:
Once your security status reaches -5 you are considered an outlaw and can be attacked by players anywhere without CONCORD intervention. Be really careful about CONCORD Assembly Sovereignty! - CONCORD marks the ship as an outlaw and you are not able to jump out of the system or move in general; you will be shot down!


From here.


So... they are "banned" ... it's just up to you to enforce the "ban".


/end thread

wow, that was easy...

Thus Spake the Frigate Goddess!
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#53 - 2012-06-07 15:45:59 UTC
Musashi IV wrote:
Why even have hi-sec or a security standing if players with -5 or lower security standing can play in hi-sec with imunity. A player who reaches -5 should be banned from entering or playing in hi-sec.

So says the botter....

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Spurty
#54 - 2012-06-07 15:52:47 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Kohiko Sun wrote:
To prove this immunity exists, get to outlaw status and fly a faction-fit CNR through high sec. Please, record it for peer review, and, remember, it must be repeated at least three times to be considered a valid experiment.



Fit warp stabs, nanos, and run 4TW

How many WCS stop a WDG?

Assuming you fit 1 nano and 4 stabs, what stops 5 points / 3 scrams from stopping you?

I'll let you mull over this and weigh it against why you don't see red CNRs flitting about highsec.


One focused point heavy dictor will solve this. He is going no where.

Web him, blap him, kill mail for all


There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

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Spurty
#55 - 2012-06-07 15:54:52 UTC
Biggest issue when playing in a sandbox is it requires you to exist in a place full of kids with sand in their pants.

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

Built by CCP
Disregard That
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#56 - 2012-06-07 15:56:05 UTC
Spurty wrote:
Biggest issue when playing in a sandbox is it requires you to exist in a place full of kids with sand in their pants.

Don't forget the moronic kid who pees in the sand...Roll
adam smash
Department of Gub'nent Welfare
Harkonnen Federation
#57 - 2012-06-07 16:37:06 UTC
Lexmana wrote:
Alexandra Delarge wrote:
CCP needs to perma ban bot users.

OP uses bots.


And this is the OP in that thread for all of you that don't like to follow links:

Musashi IV wrote:
Several months ago I created my own mining bot program. I was pulling in about 250 mil a day but was not satisfied. How could I raise the price of ICE? The price of ICE was low because of mining bots. I decided to start writing anti-botting threads on all the forums. I wanted CCP to change the mechanics of the game to put other bot programs out of action. I knew I could change my program to compensate for any changes CCP could make. After several months of campaigning against bots CCP finally started taking action against them. The only problem is they started banning players instead of changing the game mechanics. I soon got banned. Dont worry this is not my main char, its only an alt.


BTW, this is the best bot tears thread in a while.


HAHAHAHAHAHA

You should be banned LOL O wait... you were.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#58 - 2012-06-07 16:43:17 UTC
evereplicant wrote:
Tippia wrote:
No, they really don't.


Tippia I have yet to see you agree with anything that anyone posts, its becoming tedious.


Tippia agree with quite a few of my posts ranging from how to tank your hulk to my special relationship with megathrons. Perhaps if you posted things which were right you too might get the Tippia approval.
MisterNick
The Sagan Clan
#59 - 2012-06-07 16:54:57 UTC
Definitely a bot tears thread. This amuses me Pirate

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom."
Rengerel en Distel
#60 - 2012-06-07 18:27:55 UTC
Most people aren't going to pop an outlaw capsule at a gate, mostly because it's nearly impossible in high sec. The idea that the players can keep them from moving about high sec is as idiotic as the OP. Perhaps if they went to a hub where people have ships designed to target as fast as possible, but that's not where they're going. They're going to meet up with their orca full of ships ready for them to gank people. This is just one of those "exploits" or "emergent gameplay" that CCP can't get involved in, without seriously trying to warp the physics of the game.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.