Science & Industry

Thank you for clarifying Aurel. There are a few modules that BPC take forever to copy and the lower runs that still provide the 10 run bpc are more economical.

I support many of the proposed changes.

Devs, please pay attention. These are great examples of the small things the community has been crying about for ages.

We don't want walking in stations, we want better spaceship combat, less "work" and more play.

Also I just noticed a new feature on the forums (draft saved) as I'm typing this. Win.

Here is my two cent's.

BPO's - Should list ME and PE on the icon for the BPO itself. Im thinking putting it in the bottom corner in a little box would be very very helpful.

BPC's - Should list number of runs remaining in a similar way as the BPO's would list ME/PE. or list it as say "12/1500" across the bottom or top of BPC.

Figuring out an efficient way to deal with 1000's of BPC's and BPO's would be nice. such as even coloring them different, say untouched 10% waste BPO is standard blue, researched is noticeably darker blue, Max run BPC could be dark red, and gets lighter red until it is used up, say a shade lighter each run until the BPC is used up. All in all there are a lot of simple things you could do that would shave off hours from a manufacture/invention standpoint.

It would also be nice to have a sort of central hanger for storing data-cores so that they may be used at all labs at the pos instead of having to have a bunch of data-cores at each lab.

Implementing even half of the idea's that have been suggested in this forum would be just, just awesome.


Hey CCP, I know you have that DUST 514 thing going on and im very excited for that, but your base game EVE really needs some love too, the recent updates are nice some good changes and i see it all coming together but i think so far the implementation of said changes have been almost unnecessary and it seems like you may be for some reason unknown to us avoiding most of the major gripes people have with the game mechanics. except T2 BPO's keep ignoring that, people who call for their removal just need to stfu and stop whining, the horse is dead stop poking it.

Thanks for reading my ramble. now back to work.

This isn't really a papercut anymore. There should not be two panes in the choose location box.


Here is how the interface should be:

When you click to do something to a blueprint, the "Choose Location" box should pop up.

Take a look at all of the filters at the top of the dialog. There are only two valid combinations: "Current Blueprint Location" or "POS in the same system as the blueprint". Do not display all of the invalid choices. In the future if you want to add research for a fee at someone else's POS, you can add a "select POS" dropdown box. But until that feature is implremented, don't show it.

On one pane at the bottom of the box, show all of the valid slots with remaining production times. Allow sorting by assembly array, but do not make me choose an array to see the slots. Do not display the invalid slots for offline arrays or for wrong manufacturing type arrays. (Do not show my component assembly array slots when I have clicked on a ship blueprint.)

Once a slot has been selected, show the "Quote" dialog box. To the quote box, add buttons at the top to allow me to change input and output hangars, quantity, and select a decryptor or a meta item for inventions. Querry the input hangar to determine how much of each relevant material is present.

When I change manufacturing or copying quantity, update the build time and materials required, compared to the materials in the hangar. You can use the client to calculate and display how much material is required, if any are short, and if the build time is too long, because none of the materials are taken for the build until I push "Accept" at the bottom of the window.

Two popup windows instead of three. Fewer database calls. No invalid options confusing people.


Oh wait a minute... if the interface is simplified, more people will manufacture. More people manufacturing means lower profits for me. Don't touch it!

The blueprint quick finder here is a good start.
However it would be more helpful if you could add it to one more place:
Science and industry, -- > Installation --> you choose the assembly line, press the Install Job button.
Click on the PICK BLUEPRINT button.
And in THAT screen but the quick finder button.

Additionally, it should REMEMBER the last used filter (the above one) and BPO/BPC, DIvision settings.

How about actually being able to 'Alliance Use' and 'Public Use' the research slots from our POSs? Eh?

That'd be cool to actually be able to do someday... someday...

Here is the dev response to my ideas and the general question of whether they are a priority.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1206165#post1206165

GIven what's happened with the inventory, and as much as I'd like the atrocity that is the industry user interface improved, I think it's best if CCP never touch it. You'll only make it worse. Somehow.

The ability to dump all components into a CHA, and have arrays draw from it. So, i have 2 equipment assembly arrays producing modules, i take my freighter, and dump all the parts into the corp hangar array. Then i hit hte magic button, or drag the magic darg'n'drop, and tell both my equipment arrays to draw from the same corp hangar array. Same goes for labs. Dump all my datacores in one tab, and have multiple labs draw from said tab. Would make inventory a BREEZE.

Second option is either batch inventing/manufacturing (e.g. select 5 BPC's, use 5 manu slots) or saved settings, so i can invent at the same array every time.

Here's something I've been working on, for a concept game I wanted to design but lack programming skills and the time.

Manufacturing tends to be just what everyone has said it is, click, scroll, click. Boring. I love crafting, and enjoy the crafting part of every game I try. Without that aspect of the game, its not worth playing, at least for me.

By having the station, or system do all the work, the manufacturing part of the game isn't manufacturing, its listing, clicking, and checking to make sure you have the appropriate minerals on hand. The larger ships, like capitals begin to use the type of manufacturing I am thinking of, but they don't take it far enough.

Make it a mini-game. Produce hull plates, structural support bars, that sort of thing, but inputting the minerals and out comes the part you need to make your ship, or module. Take the appropriate parts, and using a user interface, position the parts according to the blueprint, weld in place, move to the next part, until the ship is complete. There should also be an automatic button for those who don't want to do it themselves, but for those who want to build ships, and really build them, this would be something unique.

Guns would require manufactured barrels, power circuits, firing mechanisms, gun mounts. Shields would be mostly electronic and power amplifier parts, while armor would be actual types of armor plating that gets placed in appropriate places, as per the blueprint. Placing in the wrong area would be a manufacturing error and the system wouldn't let you anchor to weld it in.

Big job, big addition. Think big, win big.