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Proof of CCP double standard when it comes to null/carebrears!

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Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#61 - 2012-06-07 07:23:46 UTC
Aramatheia wrote:
i lost a coercer to rogue drones in a scanned site.. oh woe was that a depressing day... lol


that's a learning experience with a cheap disposable ship, not an embarrassment with a 2bn faction battleship

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#62 - 2012-06-07 07:23:50 UTC
wait I forgot to sign my letter
ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#63 - 2012-06-07 07:24:12 UTC
regards Moderated to Silence

o7o7o7
ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#64 - 2012-06-07 07:25:23 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Agree with the OP

+1 like.



The OP is completely inaccurate. Do you agree with his sentiment or his statements?
Kyshonuba
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#65 - 2012-06-07 08:24:34 UTC
ModeratedToSilence wrote:
Dear OP.

Look in the current wars tab under corporation in alliance you don't like. Find a current war where the "null bear alliance" you do not like is the aggressor. Offer to help the defender as an ally. Well done free war against any "null bear alliance" .


Look in the current wars tab and check assistence request ..... we are probaply talking about an industrial corp which is focussed on money making . Doing High Sec-PvP for an industrial corp means loosing time and money for them, hence paying money for merchenary support seems to be the better solution.

Links to dev bloggs regarding war mechanics

With friends like these ... the new ally system
Changes to war mechanics

Attitude of CCP regarding "high sec wars"

SoniClover wrote:


As always it is very difficult to create a system that supports legal PvP in a one-size-fits-all manner, as people have different playstyles, needs and expectations. With the changes currently in the pipeline we do realize that wars become a bit more hardcore and harder to avoid. But the line that is being drawn in the sand here is that if you’re in a player run corporation, then war is something you must be prepared to tackle.
The ally system and the surrender with enforced peace do give options beside just duking it out (or docking for a week), but if you absolutely do not want to be war decced, then the only option right now is to be in a NPC corp. This is not an optimal solution and we might iterate here in the future, but this is the direction we’re taking right now.



hope that helps Blink
The Groundskeeper
State War Academy
Caldari State
#66 - 2012-06-07 09:38:59 UTC
"We are on the cusp of breaking our all-time subscriber record right now," Olafsson told me.
- http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/06/05/e3-2012-ccp-says-it-wants-eve-to-be-around-in-10-20-30-years/

Eve is healthier than it has been for years and subscriptions are up, up up... Good luck with the whining and begging, empire scum.
Uinuva Karma
Doomheim
#67 - 2012-06-07 09:43:22 UTC
I can prove that I have double D standards, but it will cost you 500mil per handful.

Only for nullbears, carebears have hairy and dirty hands.






Captain Kirk didn't stay in hisec. 
Yolanta Geezenstack
GWA Corp
#68 - 2012-06-07 10:04:09 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
"I can pay half of the working class to kill the other half"


Using that quote in this circumstance is vicious on so many levels - brilliant. Twisted
Potrondal Morrison
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#69 - 2012-06-07 10:10:59 UTC
Everytime i read one of these "high sec is so unfare to miners" posts, i think, YEEEHHAAAAAA, CRY BABY, CRY THOSE TEARS, MORE,MORE,MORE, etc.
Roxie Mars
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#70 - 2012-06-07 10:52:51 UTC
I wish I could fly around null sec risk free. What skills do I need to train for that?
Spurty
#71 - 2012-06-07 11:08:37 UTC
Roxie Mars wrote:
I wish I could fly around null sec risk free. What skills do I need to train for that?


Quit corp

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

Built by CCP
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#72 - 2012-06-07 11:16:00 UTC
@OP

If you want to kill nullbears, go there and kill them.

brb
Kyshonuba
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#73 - 2012-06-07 14:10:16 UTC
Be careful guys ! CCP just confirmed that some notorious forum trolls accidently venomed themselves with high sec tears. Attention
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#74 - 2012-06-07 14:17:03 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
There is a great cry among the miner community due to the fact that they are being griefed and its encouraged from CCP…

In the eyes of CCP miners have no right being in high sec and they should be forced to move to null sec “where its supposed to be safe?”…

But look how the CSM has manipulated their position when it comes to the war dec formula…

Apparently if you have more peeps in your corp/alliance it should be more expensive to war dec you!??!?!?

Yes you read that right! In the eyes of CCP large nullbears alliances should be aloud to roam free in highsec without having to worry about being killed…

How can it on one hand be unfair to have cheep war dec costs because of the perception that it would be unfair to nullbears due to having high sec no longer be “safe”… when the same people say that miners should be targeted and harassed because they have no right to be safe in high sec?

Either fix the war dec formula so if people like goons and so on want to have a high sec campaign they should be persona non grata… every high sec corp should be war decced with them and have it cost effective…

Or if the csm is right and high sec should be reasonably safe then just increase the PG of the hulk so it can fit a LSE

Make harder hits for sec status for suicide ganks and make it so someone with negative sec status cant use an orca to reship…

Common CCP this hypocrisy is nauseating!



If you'd care to form a corporation I invite you to join our war against Goonswarm for absolutely ZERO isk.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
Roisin Saoirse
Doomheim
#75 - 2012-06-07 18:13:21 UTC
Trinkets friend wrote:
Given Sudden Buggery was, and this is confirmed, the first corp to lay out and accept an assist in a wardec, I can tell you, a 15 v 50 turned into a 15 v 450 pretty damn quickly once everyone realised you could join wars for free, as long as you were prepared to stick it out till the aggressor decided it was too much of a PITA.

This is the important part of your post. The aggressor still has all the power and is the only decider in when a wardec ends. The defender can't lock the aggressor into the dec as a reprisal or force an end to it, and if the aggressor wants to they can just dock up and keep all parties locked into a pointless wardec indefinitely.

There is still no balance or real risk in declaring wardecs, despite the press releases of a company that obviously doesn't play its own game.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#76 - 2012-06-07 18:21:03 UTC
I love suggesting "turn all of highsec into 0.0 so everyone will be supersafe like you say" in these whine threads because I get to watch the OP immediately slink away and abandon the thread every time.
Jin'an Tonika
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#77 - 2012-06-07 19:35:22 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
March rabbit wrote:
this is only measurement of your success and "pvp-skill" Cool

which doesn't decline your "nullbear-ness" Lol


The measurement of an alliance's success is its ability to take space and defend it. The alliance you are in, a faded shadow of its former self (which was a shadow of its former self as well, ~heh~), failed miserably at this when Insmother fell. On the other hand, when we faced an invasion, we promptly trapped the hostile supercaps in their staging towers and destroyed all of the progress they had made up until that point.

So please tell me more about "measures of success"

laff



Look at this Nullbear talking like he's got some war stories to share. He hasn't ganked a high sec industrialist in over a year. Keep talking Darth Failbear. Take that stupid hood off or go back to Nerds of the Old Republic
Djana Libra
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#78 - 2012-06-07 19:40:34 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
~nullbears~

what the **** does that even mean


Look on killboards, they are the ****rds in capitals that get killed with an NPC as highest damage dealer
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#79 - 2012-06-07 19:46:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Richard Desturned
Jin'an Tonika wrote:
Look at this Nullbear talking like he's got some war stories to share. He hasn't ganked a high sec industrialist in over a year. Keep talking Darth Failbear. Take that stupid hood off or go back to Nerds of the Old Republic


npc alts lma0

also that covetor kill was a canflip, it was hilarious, he said i have no ~honour~

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#80 - 2012-06-08 09:07:20 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
I love suggesting "turn all of highsec into 0.0 so everyone will be supersafe like you say" in these whine threads because I get to watch the OP immediately slink away and abandon the thread every time.

Actually...

...

That's a damn good way to do it.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?