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MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-06-06 19:07:45 UTC  |  Edited by: MotherMoon
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52FYhyla9EA

skip forward a bit, THIS is what i want in eve. and if you don't it, that's fine. But it's coming, and all I want is an update on what the future plans will be. even if those plans are they want to wait 4 years, I want to see the road map, because I know the graphics being used in that dust 514 home space were made for eve online and are already finished.

*******

CCP, this is getting silly. I recently jumped into the new-----Edit------NDA Violation-----|ISD Tyrozan
http://www.psu.com/a015656/E3-2012--The-Last-of-Us-Beyond-and-GoW-Ascension-are-great-but-Dust-514-is-something-else
and found what they said in this. Since apparently this site is under NDA, be careful if you click the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n41s1Iox18A

This **** was finished 3 years ago. Can't you just give us a small room that us Roleplay people can just sit in, maybe 5 players max, and play it? I mean hell even just stick Slay into CQ and let us join other players in their CQ. I don't care anymore. It's been 3 years waiting for you to come out with WiS.

The work is done isn't it? And I'm not mad or anything, just... confused. CCP has never really laid down what happen. How we went from a fully working demo, which i got the chance to play at fanfest 3 years ago, to the worst expansion of all time. -----Edit-----Sentence removed as NDA violation.

Quote:
Next, starting this week as a part of Sony’s Virtual E3 experience, DUST 514 will be fully integrated into PlayStation Home. Our DUST 514 Home Space is a great way for you to get up close and personal with the New Eden universe, and we’re really proud of how it’s turned out. Its a War Barge cantina in the EVE Universe, you can learn about the history of New Eden, hang out, earn awesome stuff like companions and armor for Home, play multiplayer Slay – the incredible strategic board game – and much more. In addition, we’re very excited to let you know that we are making available a wave of 10,000 “All Access” Closed Beta invites that visitors to the DUST 514 Home Space can earn by completing all the activities inside, with access to all the DUST 514 Beta events over the summer. So hurry and get yours before they’re gone! That said, the DUST 514 Space will remain live, and new content will be added, so Home users can definitely look forward to additional Beta keys to be distributed through the DUST 514 Home Space in the future.


Slay is now out on ps home. Bringing a much awaiting feature of eve online into reality, but not in Eve online.

Whatever, point is, can't you guys at CCP throw us a bone? Give us a little update on what happen in the last 3 years? Why it released so puny, why you can't get two people in the same room? What the plan is moving forward? Fanfest had nothing to say about WiS.

I think the 1st dev blog about WiS was 5 years ago. I love eve, and I do enjoy getting into it once in a while. But waiting for WiS has always got me logging off. I know that sounds crazy, but I played it at fanfest and the potenal was staggering. All i ask for is a break down of what happen, and where we go from here. It just.. feel like all of the work for WiS must allready be done and your just sitting on it. Which is fine but I'd like to hear why it's not out yet from CCP, and not from countless rumors on the forums.

Was it really that you held it all back to release NeX? if so that feature is the devil.

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Khoda Khan
Vatlaa Corporation
#2 - 2012-06-06 19:15:16 UTC
DUST is not EVE.

Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.

Walking in Stations has nothing to do with EVE.

Walking in Stations is a complete waste of time.

If you want to "roleplay" in EVE, then actually play your "role" as a pod pilot. If you were an immortal being would you actually do something silly that removed your immortal status, even temporarily? Like, say, leaving your pod? You think you're going to hang out with your immortal buddies and play table top games? In a universe where violence is quick and sudden (and quite permanent for a pod pilot outside his pod... no waking up in the clone vat... dead is DEAD). You are a god, act like one instead of a commoner who wants to play tabletop games in his CQ with buddies.

Also, just for clarification... Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#3 - 2012-06-06 19:16:47 UTC
We have SPACESHIPS. Why in all of New Eden do you want to walk?

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Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-06-06 19:18:32 UTC
the plan is that we will be able to mingle with the dusters in stations... and have starwars type meetings to hire mecenaries face to face.

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Soulpirate
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-06-06 19:23:10 UTC
We need to be able to interact with the Dust players when it goes live or
a great opportunity will be lost.

If we can all walk on the same stations and play some mini-games it will
bind the two games into the EVE universe and encourage cross-over between
the two parts of it.

If it doesn't happen then we will just have two separate games, there will be
no "universe" and a great opportunity will be lost.
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-06-06 19:24:33 UTC  |  Edited by: MotherMoon
Barbara Nichole wrote:
the plan is that we will be able to mingle with the dusters in stations... and have starwars type meetings to hire mecenaries face to face.


exactly, plus dust will be a part of 0.0 warfare. you can sell to dust players, and join the same corps and alliances. you can play dust, to make isk, to transfer to your eve account, to buy your eve account a plex to play eve for free. Anyone that doesn't want dust and eve to be the same game obviously should quit now, nothing is going to stop this from coming. DUST IS EVE.

but again, it's all rumors, i don't care either way, I just want to hear CCP SAY SOMETHING. anything really.

The one thing we haven't seen at fanfest in the past 2 years is a the ten year plan. We got one back in 2007 when dust was 1st shown off as a 4 second clip. Now i want to see a dev blog about eve's ten year plan. I want to know where eve is headed once FiS in finished being fixed.

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Andre Jean Sarpantis
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-06-06 19:24:40 UTC
Khoda Khan wrote:
DUST is not EVE.

Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.

Walking in Stations has nothing to do with EVE.

Walking in Stations is a complete waste of time.

If you want to "roleplay" in EVE, then actually play your "role" as a pod pilot. If you were an immortal being would you actually do something silly that removed your immortal status, even temporarily? Like, say, leaving your pod? You think you're going to hang out with your immortal buddies and play table top games? In a universe where violence is quick and sudden (and quite permanent for a pod pilot outside his pod... no waking up in the clone vat... dead is DEAD). You are a god, act like one instead of a commoner who wants to play tabletop games in his CQ with buddies.

Also, just for clarification... Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.



Sorry it's NOT against EVE lore.....at the very beginning all pilots were manevering their ships like the other mortals or call them nonpods until Jove brougth the Capsule technologie to the Caldaris.

Also There are things you need to do outside your pod without having continually logged your doings while beeing in the pod....like as you want to trade sensual goods ( the to implementing smuggling thingie ) and other stuff....if you don#t want to get out of your pod you are free to stay there until the Universe esplodes.....on the other hand...Eve won't be a complete SciFi Simulation without WiS and CCP told since years they want Eve to be a complete SciFi SImulation so Avatars ( Bodies ) will have to get implemented, Like it or l´dislike it your choice....but CCP definitely will Complete this feature until they got it working.

Sincerly

Andre Jean Sarpantis (Roleplayed Nephew from the Serpentis founder )
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-06-06 19:27:05 UTC
1st walking in stations video was shown ... 7 years ago...

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benji linus
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-06-06 19:29:00 UTC
does this mean WiS is finally coming to eve?

i've waited for so long, my dreams come true...
Spineker
#10 - 2012-06-06 19:30:36 UTC
DUST is not EVE. Wrong

Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.Wrong

Walking in Stations has nothing to do with EVE.Wrong

Walking in Stations is a complete waste of time.Only in your little small unimaginative world. We don't live there with you.
Tobiaz
Spacerats
#11 - 2012-06-06 19:32:59 UTC
Those Dust bunnies are sooo gonna get bombarded for this... Evil

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Rakan Stenier-Tian
Gladiators Vanguard
#12 - 2012-06-06 19:34:24 UTC
Khoda Khan wrote:
DUST is not EVE.

Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.

Walking in Stations has nothing to do with EVE.

Walking in Stations is a complete waste of time.

If you want to "roleplay" in EVE, then actually play your "role" as a pod pilot. If you were an immortal being would you actually do something silly that removed your immortal status, even temporarily? Like, say, leaving your pod? You think you're going to hang out with your immortal buddies and play table top games? In a universe where violence is quick and sudden (and quite permanent for a pod pilot outside his pod... no waking up in the clone vat... dead is DEAD). You are a god, act like one instead of a commoner who wants to play tabletop games in his CQ with buddies.

Also, just for clarification... Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.




What good is being immortal if you don't get to enjoy it ? Trapped forever alone in a little pod. No food , no drink , no companionship. You call that living ? You call that godhood ? A standard emperyan would go mad after year if he or she couldn't get out of that pod every once in awhile .
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-06-06 19:34:31 UTC
Spineker wrote:
DUST is not EVE. Wrong

Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.Wrong

Walking in Stations has nothing to do with EVE.Wrong

Walking in Stations is a complete waste of time.Only in your little small unimaginative world. We don't live there with you.


That's your opinion. but sadly, You're living in a fantasy world. Why ignore the truth you really think ignoring it is going to somehow make it not happen? It's already happening. You won't be able to play eve without playing dust anymore. unless you just want to solo missions in low sec.

Every planet in low sec will let Dust mercs build weapons to shoot eve players. So if you are doing PI you better be ready.

Other rumors point towards tech 3 weapons in eve being directly created from dust only stuff.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#14 - 2012-06-06 19:34:51 UTC
Nah. Dust has about as much walking as EVE does.

Most of Dust is running around with your hair on fire. Speed-tanking ftw. P
Orravan
Anomalie
#15 - 2012-06-06 19:41:37 UTC
Khoda Khan wrote:
DUST is not EVE.

Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.

Walking in Stations has nothing to do with EVE.

(...)

Also, just for clarification... Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.


You're invoking the game' lore, but it looks like you didn't read the numerous official stories and chronicles published since 2003 actually setting the EVE lore.
Else you'd know that capsulers indeed got out of their capsules, met people in stations for a lot of reasons, and that it's a perfectly normal behaviour for a pod pilot.

And really, numerous they are, as much as rich in details and explanations on the universe you're playing in.

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marVLs
#16 - 2012-06-06 19:42:34 UTC
+1 for WIS, gimme gimme gimme
Erinn Sylvanus
NovaTech Universal
#17 - 2012-06-06 19:43:57 UTC
I figure it's a plan to make even being docked in a station unsafe.

I thoroughly expect to be walking in my quarters when some Dust 514 troopers bust down the locked door and murder me.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#18 - 2012-06-06 19:45:59 UTC
in dust you can walk on planets why shouldn't you be able to walk in stations?

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
LittleTerror
Stygian Systems
#19 - 2012-06-06 19:47:48 UTC
Khoda Khan wrote:
DUST is not EVE.


Also, just for clarification... Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.


So the evolution of eve stopped there did it?

Who are you to say that walking in stations has nothing to do with eve?
Khoda Khan
Vatlaa Corporation
#20 - 2012-06-06 19:48:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Khoda Khan
Andre Jean Sarpantis wrote:
Sorry it's NOT against EVE lore.....at the very beginning all pilots were manevering their ships like the other mortals or call them nonpods until Jove brougth the Capsule technologie to the Caldaris.


What CCP wanted was to provide a testbed for tech related to DUST 514 avatars and more specifically for World of Darkness development. Anyone who thinks that Incarna had ANYTHING to do with EVE aside from fuctioning as a testbed for other projects and as a method of introducing microtransactions into a game that is played via monthly subscriptions is simply delusional. Incarna and WiS had nothing to do with "making EVE a complete scifi simulation".

As for the lore, it's pretty well established by CCP's own chronicles and books that pod pilots do not like extricating themselves from their pod. Because every ability and advantage is stripped away. They become, for lack of a better phrase, human. They become mortal. Mortals who are both worshipped AND despised. The typical pod pilot, even a "young" one has killed hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people. And the one thing that they have as protection against the masses -- their ship and their immortality -- is stripped away from them.

Now if you want to roleplay a commoner, some little peon of no significance, and that's what pod pilots think of anyone else who ISN'T a god, that's fine. But don't say the role you wish to play is keeping with EVE lore, because it's not.

Andre Jean Sarpantis wrote:
Also There are things you need to do outside your pod without having continually logged your doings while beeing in the pod....like as you want to trade sensual goods ( the to implementing smuggling thingie ) and other stuff....


Strange. I find that anything I need to do I can do without ever leaving my ship. Now if CCP wants to ADD things that require a pod pilot to leave their pod, then that's their perogative. Still isn't in keeping with their own lore. Just an addition to get someone out of their pod into the WiS environment so the nex store becomes more useful, and thus more likely to be used. CCP has no problems with convincing people like you that you want/need to do something in order to increase their profits, and ignore their own lore in the process.

Andre Jean Sarpantis wrote:
if you don#t want to get out of your pod you are free to stay there until the Universe esplodes.....on the other hand...Eve won't be a complete SciFi Simulation without WiS and CCP told since years they want Eve to be a complete SciFi SImulation so Avatars ( Bodies ) will have to get implemented, Like it or l´dislike it your choice....but CCP definitely will Complete this feature until they got it working.


EVE is a complete "simulation". Has been since before Incarna's release. Spaceships. In space. Doing stuff. Incarna , and all the time spent developing it, actually damaged the simulation by moving the focus away from what the "simulation" is all about.

Also, just to reiterate, WiS has nothing to do with EVE.
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