EVE General Discussion

While at first I was against this whole permanent hulkageddon thing, and righteously defended highsec dwellers (since I was one) I see now that's it's a good thing. Now, while I don't like to see people get ganked, it teaches them a valuable lesson about eve, that highsec is just as dangerous as living in lowsec, and if you don't believe so, just look at all the people getting ganked. They're regular loot pinatas. Like it or not, highsec ganking has become a profession, and you can either change your playstyle now or later, but the latter will be more costly. Highsec gankers won't be as prevalent if you don't give them a reason to gank you. Start tanking your ships, start baiting people, or, as they suggest, move out of highsec to low or null. Don't like that? Move to wormholes like I did, it's more rewarding than highsec but safer than living in nullsec, it's more of a stepping stone to greater things. The real heart of eve lies beyond the screen of highsec. All the news you hear about eve isn't about carebears (yes, I said it, carebears) that grind missions all day for no risk, it's about all the wars in nullsec and what they do to influence the game. At the end of the day, who will make the news, you whining about being ganked, or the person who paid the ganker? Highsec is more of a hold-your-hand tutorial zone that has been too safe for too long. In the end, if highsec dwellers don't move with the times, they will either be turned to dust or will simply give up and unsub. It's your choice as a capsuleer, do you choose greatness, or oblivion?

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Every good mmo need pve aspects, MMO without pve become pvp arcade ****.

Without all those standings acording to pve npc corporatios, jita, miners, mission runers etc, eve become instant pvp serwer with empty space, game like in sisi serwer, just buy ship for 100 isk instal t2 rigs for 100isk and do pew pew whole day. Belive me or not people get bored after stupid instant pvp and they leave serwer.

Personaly i wont pay for eve if ccp remove pve, because economy and serwer die, but some pvpr nerds cant understand this.

Some people need to understad eve exist becuse pve! all manufacture is about pve and grind, witout this you newer got abbility to bulid titans, run pos, outpost etc.

How about all those pro pvpr who siting in bilions worth tengus fited with bil worth modules? Yesss all thse dead space and oficer module are for free, and never before belnog to carebear who run plexes...

How meny of you hipocrits who hate crarebears using faction ships and espetialy faction cap boosters in pvp? oh wait here is faction bpo on makret and faction lp are for free.

Wow you sound whiny. Hope you get totally ganked raped and stuffed over a fire today.

9 years...

EDIT: And who doesn't enjoy their own play style? If their still paying for the game and not enjoying it well that's just dumb...

Well if PvP Centric MMO's, in general, fail in the market AND Eve is not a PVP centric game but instead is an economic centric game I guess that explains why it has been successful for nine years and there is no need to make any changes to that model. I could not be in more agreement with you.

You are the only one talking about "PVE vs PVP". This thread is about high security space players.

Everybody does both PVE and PVP in EVE, it's a virtual world ffs.

I totally agree with you on this, I truly think this hate against those who want to play peacefully is pathological and as an adult I consider it "ciber-bully" in a form as it involves attacks or violence in an area where security is "supposed" to be safe as per the game design, thus, I consider highsec attacks, ganks, or whatever even forum attacks to be "illegal" when it comes to the mental stress it causes on other human beings behind the keyboard, specially on kids playing the game after all..

For this reasons I think the game or at least high sector area of the game should be restricted to these bullies who think is fun to kill other w/o any response. This attitude and behavior of hate and aggression w/o reason, just for grief, fun or any other "absurd ideas" only shows me how depressed and psychotic they should be in their own life.

I truly believe ciber-bully at ALL levels... not only in facebook, myspace, and/or even games should be a matter to legally investigate and be stop and penalized once and for all. CCP is the only authority in the game, not the players, not the alliances, not the corps, not these "goons-bullies" or anyone else who think they are better than anyone. They should be punished one way or another. One way to me is... to move on anti-cyberbully laws and make legal authorities punish ciber-bullying at all levels thru legal "REAL - NOT GAME" (I meant prosecution) actions and once and for all, this will force CCP to exercise caution towards this matter making the game safer for those who dont want to see this kind of bully behavior.

I do not believe it is a way of a game to sponsor violence, specially when it was designed with secure areas, so, as a conclusion i think if CCP does not listen to players, they should listen to legal authorities and law enforcement, otherwise I see -as things are in this country (US) with the bullying matter- I see CCP facing legal lawsuits from parents in the future. Not only that, game population shortage.

Im not against PVP, I'm in favor of it, but ONLY with consent. Myself, I love mining, and exploring.. I'm an adult and I can't still understand why, if I pay I have to be interrupted just because of someone's else psychotic mentality to kill, i trully believe this to be wrong and it should be stop one way or another.

I am a high-sec carebear type. I mine, haul, and trade pretty much the entire time I play. The few times I've been ganked, I didn't whine, in fact I usually talk to the ganker and ask them for tips on how I could avoid a similar incident. Generally they are happy to help, I assume since most people they gank just get mad at them and whine. I just have a positive conversation, try to learn something new, and wish them the best of luck in their future endeavors. With that being said, I can't help but feel that there are tons of players who feel I am playing Eve the wrong way because I don't go out and shoot people.

Fair enough, haters are gonna hate, whiners are gonna whine. Not a whole lot any of us can do about it I suppose.