Jita Park Speakers Corner

Were you replying to me?

If you were, I was talking about people, not stuff.

I wasn't referring to holding gates in low-sec so any random person could pass through.

I also made absolutely no reference to changing game mechanics.

Simply that low-sec effectively blockades null-sec from high-sec for the majority of players.

Your complaint makes no sense. If stuff isn't an issue, either (a) podjump or (b) get in something small and fast and cheap and fly out yourself. I really don't get why having to fly in lowsec is a problem, especially since you're going to null.

Also, planned corp routes would be a disaster as it'd ensure that the "route" is camped solid by pirates. The fact that there can be multiple routes to a destination system is in your favor.

First off, nullsec isn't completely blockaded. People set up ambushes on the most common routes (like what auto-pilot creates) but there are other routes. And as you noted yourself, wormholes are another way to get in. There are also several types of ships that have abilities to get you around most gate camps, and people do it everyday.

Also, lowsec isn't that bad. So long as you warp gate to gate in a reasonably quick and not too flashy ship, most people won't bother you.

Many complaints from nullsec dwellers have to do with the sov mechanics, and with limits placed on sov null (structure grinding, jump bridges, station services). Moving large fleets of large ships and grinding down sov structures is time consuming, and if the enemy just gives up, then there really isn't any action.

Aside from actual sov warfare, the rest of the fun is left up to the players, and not all sov holding alliances are the same. Many of these people should be crying at their alliance leadership and not at CCP for ways to have fun. Other alliances have no problem with the fun factor, and spend there efforts pestering CCP for balancing titans, materials and fixing other nullsec features.

The "nullsec is boring" argument is pretty dumb. Part of it is poor leadership not coming up with things to do. Part of it is outsiders looking in, highsec dwellers who don't know what to do on day-trips to nullsec. Only the part about structure grinding is really CCP's fault.

Oh ok I guess we should pack it up guys, ~FRYING DOOM~ has decided we can't talk about what life is like in the space we actually live in! Let's cede the discussion on the future of nullsec to pubbies who daytrip on occasion, surely they'll be able to tell us what's best for us!

Please enlighten us, oh former highsec dweller, on what needs fixing in nullsec.

That is an easy one

People who are too lazy to read whole threads on forums.

GTFO with your dumb analogies.



Who is left outside of the large alliances? I don't really care if the people who want to vacation in sov null find it interesting. I hope they find nothing to do except be chased by angry mobs, so they can go back to highsec and warn everyone how bad it is. Most of the people who come to our space are only here to snipe at us anyway, because WE are the content.


And players still have options like lowsec, npc null and wormholes, and those tend to favor small gangs more than space that currently requires large fleets of large ships to take and hold. Along with having no large numbers, most of the people crying that "null is boring" can't seem to articulate why they want to hold space and what they would do with it.

Sov null is for giant player made empires to duke it out, not some free fire zone for people bored of L4's.

Most of you have stated your opinion of life in null, in a big Alliance. Move on

You are correct I no longer live in Null. Why? because it was boring and Dull.
And as you apparently speak for Goonswarm, you might want to learn that calling someone a "BIG DUMB" is likely to get you laughed at a lot as their public representative.