EVE General Discussion

Hi you posted this in C&P:



You know things like this really should be clarified instead of being left as vague as "concerted campaign."

For starters what's considered a concerted campaign?

How will it be determined that someone has violated that policy and how will it be enforced?

In the situation of an individual hiring a mercenary or mercenaries to attack another player (all in game) who would be culpable, the person hiring or the mercenaries?

Please clarify this policy instead of leaving some vague statement.

E: C&P Thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1418600#post1418600

“Don't harass other players” is what it means.

so the better solution is to say nothing, allow the victim to be victimized, and the attacker to cross the invisible, unknowable line and be disciplined unnecessarily. If people go "right up to the line," that implies there IS a line and its ok to go right up to it. Hiding the line so people won't cross it is a ludicrous statement.

How much clearer do you want it to be? The statements are very direct. You want a 20-word definition of what a concerted campaign is? Sounds like you want more to argue with and a way to skirt the issue. Message is plain. Target one person for all your ganks and you risk action against you.

The ganks would have to go on for a very very long extended period of time for it to be considered "griefing". Now if the ganking can be justified as competitive (meaning he wants to either reduce your income/manipulate the market/make profit consistently off your loot) then it likely cannot be considered as greifing.

My advice to you, little padawan, is to be a little more self aware of your surroundings and location of your predators. Perhaps it would result in fewer instances of you getting your balls ganked off. I've had targets bore me to the point where it wasn't worth the effort anymore, so I moved to more lucrative, slothlike targets who barely have a pulse and 3 functioning braincells.

Don't think of us as evil gankers. Instead, see us as the fist of Darwin hellbent on cleansing the ignorant, stupid, and generally incompetent from the Eve gene pool.

In otherwords, the "line" is on a case by case basis.

That's not assaulting a player; that's assaulting a character. There is nothing to stop them from rolling up another alt on the same account and continuing to play.

CCP logic seldom acknowledges alts one way or another, but yes, I suppose what I meant was character.

I only bring it up because the distinction is very important to the magic circle. Supposedly CCP wants to promote ingame consequences for in game behavior. Corporations are supposed to use nasty unethical means to attack each other. As long as the hostility is between two characters in the context of the game it's not griefing. The problem arises when you try to provoke real life consequences. Threatening someones character in an eve mail should be fine, threatening a player directly through a phone call is not.