EVE General Discussion

Cool 25+ years even longer, doesn't change my argument.

And being halfway done doesn't mean anything in EVE so it does nothing for you to mention it.

Yep. I look at 30 day plus skills and load them without a second thought now.

The OP does not get Eve. If you are too impatient to wait for the good things you do not deserve them. The only positive I can see from implementing the OPs impertinent idea is that there will be a rapid increase in the number of people flying ships they do not have the real life skills to be flying, and thus a rapid influx of easy to beat pilots.

I say 18 years is not long enough. Idiot players trying to do everything by themselves are a plague for MMOs

Also: YOU ARE NOT YOUR SKILLPOINTS!

You do reduce the time it takes to get to level 5 and I see no harm in that overall.




I'm sure CCP can figure out the technical details, overall its just math.

Sure it means something, it means I'm halfway there. Although by the next patch CCP added more skills to make me only 1/4 of the way there so...

And tbh, when I got maxed on SiSi before, those 450m SP didn't make me jack better at PVP so I'm sorry to say, maxing out is NOT an end goal.

/c

The training time is an unobtainable goal. Like 'having it all". As such, your suggestion is an attempt to make it obtainable and that is not going to happen.

Just like other games, when you reach "max level", you are done - not quite, they add things that extend it. From EQ1 with AA's through Rift with it's Planar Attunement -- as you approach or obtain those "beyond max level" limits, they added more so you still have something to go for.

So all those skills you don't have but want, you keep training for and still see yourself as advancing and improving. It's part of the designed motivation to keep players playing.

Removal, putting them in reach... Not gonna happen. Too many would go "I got there, I'm done" and that isn't part of the plan for such a game world as this.

Indeed, the veld king and fervent supporter of all things EVE.

And I don't think what I said was flipping him off. I was merely voicing the argument overall SP count has little to do with how successful you are in EVE.

During next 18 years they can add another new 300-400 skills and like 3 new playable rases, areas ,modules, features, here is no end game all is depent Devs imagination. As somone before said eve last steps, is about specialisations, if fact while you even got 200mil sp you cant use all sp at once, so here no sense to train existed skills to lvl 5 :D

For example one of my alts got +40mil sp, but in fact he sitting in naga pass four months, this mean i use only few skills form gunery and spaceship , all rest of sp are like like uselles in frezz mode, so here no sense at all to possess all skills espetialy to lvl5.

And what has that got to do with anything in EVE other than the skill tree itself? Nothing much in terms of success in EVE.



Even you agree that SP count has little to do with success in EVE as I do.

At no point did I say maxing out is an end goal. It just takes to long overall to train and that includes all skills to level V.

You see in order for me to say training takes too long in EVE I have to say training everything overall takes too long.

I constructed my argument in a logical way and at the same time I drew out the assumption that people thought I wanted to traing everything to level V like a nub. People seem to be fighting an assumption and not the actual argument I am making.

Argument: Training takes too long.

Assumption with argument: "He thinks training makes him better, nub"

I am merely making the argument that training takes too long and I am not insinuating anything about training, just it's overall length.

If someone thinks training doesn't take too long I leave it up to them to come up with a reason outside of their opinion.

Shortening the overall training time can improve user experience and any argument to the contrary seems folly.

Because that is one of the things what separates Eve Online from the silly little clone MMOs for kiddies.