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Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2012-05-31 21:57:18 UTC
Herping yourDerp wrote:
the mayan calender is incredibly accurate. the only thing the calender says is that its the end of an age or era, I think something will happen, not ending the world but our way of life.. Read somewhere the on that day the earth, sun and center of the galaxy will align in a way that only happens every few thousand/millions/ of years.. I believe something will happen, but not doing anything drastic, living life the way I want hoping its just a giant rock.
Yeah, the quasi-scientific theory is that in December 2012 the Earth's magnetic axis will exactly align with the Milky Way galaxy's overall magnetic axis. That's because of the Earth's precession. The axis doesn't spin in one spot, it makes a loop every 26,000 years. The axis will reach a point in the loop aligning with the galaxy's magnetic poles.

Meanwhile, the solar system has its own magnetic axis, and the solar system is moving within the Milky Way. And the Milky Way is rotating. So the Earth is reaching a point where all of these magnetic axes will line up, a once in a million years event or something. In December 2012, these fields that have gradually been lining up will hit their ultimate alignment. The way two magnets suddenly snap together, when you gradually bring them close together-- that's what will happen when all the fields align. A sudden snapping into place of all the forces. The Earth's magnetic field will shift all over the place, which will disrupt the equilibrium of forces in the Earth's core, mantle, crust and atmosphere. So earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanoes, storms, etc., etc.

That's the theory I read at least. I don't know how it checks out with the scientific community. I don't even know if they can detect or measure the overall magnetic fields of the solar system or the Milky Way.
Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2012-05-31 23:33:57 UTC
Telegram Sam wrote:
Riedle wrote:
If the Mayans could actually predict the future...Shouldn't there still be Mayans?

Well, they accurately predicted the change of the last age. But when the time came, apparently they were looking for signs and misread some. The feather serpent god Quezalcoatl was supposed to come back. One of his guises is as a golden haired man. So when blondie Spaniard Cortes showed up, they thought he was Quetzal bringing in all the good stuff of the new age....


Right..and.... you are almost there...

riiight, it's all a bunch of shite just like every other time someone said the world was going to end.

I fret for our future in that in this day and age, where people are supposedly educated, but lost their collective grip on rationality.

Now THAT is scary ****.
Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2012-05-31 23:36:12 UTC
Lingfei Wen wrote:
I m a bit believe in this. Juz some different senses, and observe somethings strange more frequent recently, but cannot speak out what is going strange. Juz a feeling...

It may not be the end, but seems sth is going to change.



Ok, ignoring the god-awful grammer, but sorry - saying that "Something is going to change" is just about the safest freaking prediction one can make seeing as the only freaking thing in life that does not change is change itself.

my god.

Critical thinking FTL
Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2012-05-31 23:38:16 UTC
Quote:
That's the theory I read at least. I don't know how it checks out with the scientific community. I don't even know if they can detect or measure the overall magnetic fields of the solar system or the Milky Way.


Well I will help you out with this. It's all 100% certifiable, Grade A, Organically grown bull ****.

You're welcome.
Calairis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2012-05-31 23:43:48 UTC
With all the Florida zombie attacks in the news over the past 2 weeks... I'm starting to wonder.
Something Random
Byddin Un
#46 - 2012-05-31 23:49:06 UTC
Everyone believing "the world will end" - can i have your stuff ?

"caught on fire a little bit, just a little."

"Delinquents, check, weirdos, check, hippies, check, pillheads, check, freaks, check, potheads, check .....gangs all here!"

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Something Random
Byddin Un
#47 - 2012-05-31 23:57:13 UTC
OK - serious Roll

Roll at ya again

Picky = Worlds real big, really really big. Very hard to end.

Fact = Humans are weird - every capacity to make a utopia but dont. Crises everywhere apparently, lots of bad stuff to worry about and shoot your neighbour in the face for.

Mayans = made a calendar, and continued it to a long long long time ahead - got bored and went and did something else, like feed themselves.

Guy quitting his job over this. Sad.

My thoughts..... im rolling the eve sub over to 2013.

Roll on Israel attacking Iran.

"caught on fire a little bit, just a little."

"Delinquents, check, weirdos, check, hippies, check, pillheads, check, freaks, check, potheads, check .....gangs all here!"

I love Science, it gives me a Hadron.

Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2012-06-01 07:27:40 UTC
Akita T wrote:
Shalia Ripper wrote:
Sidus Isaacs wrote:
The economy is going to ****, there is no doubt in that, but it is not because China or US or anything like that. It is because the economy assumes infinite growth, but we got finite resources. The resources are going away, but still we waste and "consume". No thought is given to the fact that the system itself is flawed, and needs to be replaced in order to continue a decent way of living.

You mean the minerals in those holes in the ground don't replenish during downtime?

Well, maybe they do replenish during downtime, but we haven't seen a downtime yet TwistedLolCool


Perhaps that is what all this doomsday preaching is about, the coming of the downtime. Give nature a few million years to rest to replenish some resources :P

Though, in all seriousness, it is very sad the way humanity is operating.
Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#49 - 2012-06-01 13:35:59 UTC
Riedle wrote:
Telegram Sam wrote:
Riedle wrote:
If the Mayans could actually predict the future...Shouldn't there still be Mayans?

Well, they accurately predicted the change of the last age. But when the time came, apparently they were looking for signs and misread some. The feather serpent god Quezalcoatl was supposed to come back. One of his guises is as a golden haired man. So when blondie Spaniard Cortes showed up, they thought he was Quetzal bringing in all the good stuff of the new age....


Right..and.... you are almost there...

riiight, it's all a bunch of shite just like every other time someone said the world was going to end.

I fret for our future in that in this day and age, where people are supposedly educated, but lost their collective grip on rationality.

Now THAT is scary ****.

Huh? The part about the Mayan calendar and Cortes is a recorded historical fact, not some recent 2012 internet hoodoo. You can look it up. Rationality means forming your opinions based on facts and evidence. Discounting facts because they don't fit into your personal world view-- that's not rationality.
Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#50 - 2012-06-01 17:21:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Riedle
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Huh? The part about the Mayan calendar and Cortes is a recorded historical fact, not some recent 2012 internet hoodoo. You can look it up. Rationality means forming your opinions based on facts and evidence. Discounting facts because they don't fit into your personal world view-- that's not rationality.


Ok, so let me get this straight.

Firstly, I will ignore the fact that the Mayan civilization ended 600 years before Cortez came ashore in mexico to encounter the AZTEC civilization.. (lol)

In anycase, even if it were the Mayans who encountered Cortez (which it wasn't) You are telling me that the evidence that you are presenting for the 2012 mayan dooms day scenario is the fact that the mayans, themselves, misinterpreted (ie: got wrong) one of their own predictions in the 1500's?

Sounds like before you lecture someone on what historical fact is it would do you good to find out what historical fact is.

Cortez destroyed the Aztec and Inca civilizations, genius.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2012-06-01 17:27:36 UTC
Riedle wrote:
Quote:
Huh? The part about the Mayan calendar and Cortes is a recorded historical fact, not some recent 2012 internet hoodoo. You can look it up. Rationality means forming your opinions based on facts and evidence. Discounting facts because they don't fit into your personal world view-- that's not rationality.


Ok, so let me get this straight.

Firstly, I will ignore the fact that the Mayan civilization ended 600 years before Cortez came ashore in mexico to encounter the AZTEC civilization.. (lol)

In anycase, even if it were the Mayans who encountered Cortez (which it wasn't) You are telling me that the evidence that you are presenting for the 2012 mayan dooms day scenario is the fact that the mayans, themselves, misinterpreted (ie: got wrong) one of their own predictions in the 1500's?

Sounds like before you lecture someone on what historical fact is it would do you good to find out what historical fact is.

Cortez destroyed the Aztec and Inca civilizations, genius.


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Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2012-06-01 17:29:56 UTC
I am 1/32 Wankan
Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#53 - 2012-06-01 17:49:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Telegram Sam
Riedle wrote:
Quote:
Huh? The part about the Mayan calendar and Cortes is a recorded historical fact, not some recent 2012 internet hoodoo. You can look it up. Rationality means forming your opinions based on facts and evidence. Discounting facts because they don't fit into your personal world view-- that's not rationality.


Ok, so let me get this straight.

Firstly, I will ignore the fact that the Mayan civilization ended 600 years before Cortez came ashore in mexico to encounter the AZTEC civilization.. (lol)

In anycase, even if it were the Mayans who encountered Cortez (which it wasn't) You are telling me that the evidence that you are presenting for the 2012 mayan dooms day scenario is the fact that the mayans, themselves, misinterpreted (ie: got wrong) one of their own predictions in the 1500's?

Sounds like before you lecture someone on what historical fact is it would do you good to find out what historical fact is.

Cortez destroyed the Aztec and Inca civilizations, genius.

So I guess while he was at it he went ahead and destroyed Pisarro. A pre-emptive strike, so that Pisarro couldn't destroy the Incas like the history books say.

Anyway, nitpicking aside. True, the Mayan peak was over by the time Cortes arrived. It was the Aztec cities and loot he was targetting. But the Aztecs had borrowed culture from the Maya and Toltecs, kind of like Europe borrowed from Rome. And according to this anthropologist David Carrasco, the Mayan calendar was still being watched by the Aztecs and other people in Central America. Thus the mistaking Cortes for Quetzalcoatl.

Anyway, it's all good. I'm not sold on this 2012 Mayan calendar thing myself, was just throwing a factoid out there. It was published on paper in a textbook-type book. It has to be right, right?Smile
Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2012-06-01 17:57:09 UTC
Telegram Sam wrote:
Riedle wrote:
Quote:
Huh? The part about the Mayan calendar and Cortes is a recorded historical fact, not some recent 2012 internet hoodoo. You can look it up. Rationality means forming your opinions based on facts and evidence. Discounting facts because they don't fit into your personal world view-- that's not rationality.


Ok, so let me get this straight.

Firstly, I will ignore the fact that the Mayan civilization ended 600 years before Cortez came ashore in mexico to encounter the AZTEC civilization.. (lol)

In anycase, even if it were the Mayans who encountered Cortez (which it wasn't) You are telling me that the evidence that you are presenting for the 2012 mayan dooms day scenario is the fact that the mayans, themselves, misinterpreted (ie: got wrong) one of their own predictions in the 1500's?

Sounds like before you lecture someone on what historical fact is it would do you good to find out what historical fact is.

Cortez destroyed the Aztec and Inca civilizations, genius.

So I guess while he was at it he went ahead and destroyed Pisarro. A pre-emptive strike, so that Pisarro couldn't destroy the Incas like the history books say.


Yes, it was Pisarro who destroyed the Inca's. I was so flaberghasted with all of your errors that I guess it rubbed off on me.

Now, can you learn from what I posted or do you still intend to stick to your mayan fables?
Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2012-06-01 18:10:40 UTC
Edited afterwards, scroll up Riedle. Now we've got a time warp paradox going. Smile
Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#56 - 2012-06-01 18:33:08 UTC
Very well, I was hoping you could come around. faith in humanity saved
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2012-06-01 18:50:49 UTC
if the end of the world comes, then let it come. I'll be, most likely, sitting in the front row enjoying the show first-hand, like I always wanted.

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#58 - 2012-06-04 22:04:57 UTC
Riedle wrote:
If the Mayans could actually predict the future...Shouldn't there still be Mayans?


I doubt they were actually wiped out to the last man (genocide is not that easy and wasteful on top of it: who is going to work in the goldmines?) so I guess there are still a few around.

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Culmen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#59 - 2012-06-05 05:35:18 UTC
Guys, relax.
I know precisely when the world will end.

It will end on December 31st, 9999.

This is the point where the Gregorian Calendar ENDS!!
Signalling THE END OF THE COMMON ERA!!!!

I don't know how the Romans in the 5th century knew that the world would end on that day, but clearly they never planned for it, so that must be when the world ends.

There is a fine line between a post and a signature.

Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#60 - 2012-06-05 13:27:10 UTC
Nerath Naaris wrote:
Riedle wrote:
If the Mayans could actually predict the future...Shouldn't there still be Mayans?


I doubt they were actually wiped out to the last man (genocide is not that easy and wasteful on top of it: who is going to work in the goldmines?) so I guess there are still a few around.


There is, of course, still Mayan DNA in a lot of people in Central America.
The civilization, however, is long gone.

Also, the mayan civilization was gone 600 years prior to the genocidal flu bug was imported via the dirty white man in the 1500's -in regards to your inference wrt 'gold mines'.

Riedle