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Question on nullsec stuff (mostly CVA, but a bit about missions too)

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Private Pineapple
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-06-04 02:43:13 UTC
Hey all, I remember that CVA got kicked out of Providence due to that Minmatar crusade or whatever a couple years ago. I paid for a new account and started this char to pick this game back up for a bit and I noticed that CVA is back in Providence. Does this mean Providence is back to a NRDS zone and neutrals (such as I) can go there to rat in relative peace?

Also just another question about 0.0 missioning... 0.0 missions are the hardest, correct? I remember that ships get harder and bounties get bigger on the pirate NPCs the lower you go in security so I assume 0.0 missions are the hardest? Are the level 1's and 2's actually good to do in 0.0 for a beginning player like myself (who can fly a Destroyer at most?). Just curious whether I have to wait until I can fly a hurricane to rat or I can just do these missions right now with my trusty Thrasher.

Thanks in advance for your answers.

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Forest Archer
Apotheosis of Caledvwich
Ex Cineres bonum Faustum
#2 - 2012-06-04 03:34:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Forest Archer
Provi is mostly back in cva hands, I guess you can try ratting down there but it is the worst region to rat in null since the nerf. And you can do lv 1/2s in a destroyer. 2s may be a challenge with decent skill but give It a shot.
As for nrds no guarantee every time I've gone done been chased by fleets of about 20 people.

Always willing to help all you have to do is ask, though if you're in the other fleet I may not help the way you want. Just a heads up. Pub Channel: Lost Souls Trading Post

Private Pineapple
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-06-04 03:43:54 UTC
Forest Archer wrote:
Provi is mostly back in cva hands, I guess you can try ratting down there but it is the worst region to rat in null since the nerf. And you can do lv 1/2s in a destroyer. 2s may be a challenge with decent skill but give It a shot.
As for nrds no guarantee every time I've gone done been chased by fleets of about 20 people.


What nerf are you referring to?

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Esna Pitoojee
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#4 - 2012-06-04 03:57:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Esna Pitoojee
CVA got back its space through various means from whoever -A- had installed or moved in, yeah. CVA themselves won't boot you out, but Provi has also reclaimed its title as "the place people go to hunt people trying to rat in relative peace", and as such is regular roaming/stomping grounds for anyone looking for a fight.

EDIT: He's referring to the sanctum nerf. After Dominion, every 0.0 region regardless of sec status could be populated with a significant number of Sanctum-type cosmic anomalies, which spawn a few tens of battleships and pay quite well. Naturally, with all space being equal no territory was really worth fighting over for ratting rights anymore, so CCP changed the anomaly spawns to reflect the systems' true security status. Providence has one of the worst sets of truesec in 0.0, which makes it worth the least since you will get the fewest 'good' anomaly spawns.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#5 - 2012-06-04 07:39:17 UTC
Bias warning: Former Ushra'Khan member (CVA enemy) and still a Minmatar supporter.

CVA did get kicked out of Providence, and they slithered back in at some point after the Providence coalition collapsed. I'm unclear on how that happened, but as I understand it it was a combination of Noir. gifting CVA space, CVA buying space from Sansha RPers, and CVA simply moving in because nobody cared enough to stop them.

Provi is back to being declared NRDS by its resident self-appointed cops. You should be aware, though, that just because certain space is NRDS doesn't mean you're safe there. In fact, since NRDS space attracts the attention of pirates and unsavories (like myself) simply because of the heightened presence of rather clueless newbies there (like you).

0.0 missions hardly exist, since 0.0 agents hardly exist (and they simply don't exist in Providence). They exist in Curse, Great Wildlands, or other such NPC 0.0 space. I'm not sure what levels or difficulty it is, but it is for

So far as ratting, it is easily done in a battlecruiser. When I was new, I used to rat in Providence or Catch in a T1-fit Hurricane with only Battlecruisers II trained. Just have another guy ready to bail you out until you learn the ropes. He'll probably have fun while doing so.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)

Forest Archer
Apotheosis of Caledvwich
Ex Cineres bonum Faustum
#6 - 2012-06-04 08:24:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Forest Archer
If you wanna know about the collapse of the provi coalition I can answer having been part of it at the time.
also the reason provi was reclaimed by cva was that no one wanted it after the sanctum nerf.

And I'm sure anyone who knows about provi and the sanctum nerf will agree that. You can make as much money running lv 3s as you will in the best provi systems assuming the provi systems have the ratting upgrades.

No idea about the upgrades to provi systems or the operation of cva internally, but figured I'd pass the info.

Always willing to help all you have to do is ask, though if you're in the other fleet I may not help the way you want. Just a heads up. Pub Channel: Lost Souls Trading Post

Louis deGuerre
The Dark Tribe
#7 - 2012-06-04 09:23:38 UTC
Forest Archer wrote:
If you wanna know about the collapse of the provi coalition I can answer having been part of it at the time.


I WAS THERE IT WAS REAL

Most fun I've ever had in EVE.

But yeah, Providence was never good (no moons worth mentioning), but it is worthless now after the anom nerf.
Forest Archer
Apotheosis of Caledvwich
Ex Cineres bonum Faustum
#8 - 2012-06-04 09:34:42 UTC
Louis deGuerre wrote:
Forest Archer wrote:
If you wanna know about the collapse of the provi coalition I can answer having been part of it at the time.


I WAS THERE IT WAS REAL

Most fun I've ever had in EVE.

But yeah, Providence was never good (no moons worth mentioning), but it is worthless now after the anom nerf.


Doesn't matter really but that's not accurate just the alliances involved is missing quite a few of the largest participants. But like I said doesn't really matter after 18 months, but this isn't the thread for it.

Always willing to help all you have to do is ask, though if you're in the other fleet I may not help the way you want. Just a heads up. Pub Channel: Lost Souls Trading Post

Louis deGuerre
The Dark Tribe
#9 - 2012-06-04 09:41:32 UTC
Forest Archer wrote:
Doesn't matter really but that's not accurate just the alliances involved is missing quite a few of the largest participants. But like I said doesn't really matter after 18 months, but this isn't the thread for it.


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Baneken
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#10 - 2012-06-04 11:01:09 UTC
Louis deGuerre wrote:

But yeah, Providence was never good (no moons worth mentioning), but it is worthless now after the anom nerf.


Aside from a few neodymium, semi good alchemy moons Provi doesn't have much in a way of alliance income, hence most people have to mine for their income which obviously attracts pirates.
Also CVA did absolutely nothing to get their systems back it was us the peons who sat in our bombers grinding down those TCU's.
CVA only had the systems back because to most people providence = CVA = NRDS and because they (CVA) took part long after that it was obvious that no one cared about those systems; along with the promises to pets that they could remove their junk in peace.